Re: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

2024-02-20 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 8:03 AM Kent Watsen  wrote:

> Juergen, Tom, Andy,
>
> Gentle reminder.
>
>
I read draft-11.  It is an improvement. No objections.
There are 4 IETF tags defined:  metrics, logs, traces, info
I do not see much value in these standard tags, but more guidance and
explanation would help.

Since the IETF does not define any protocol usage of tags, there is little
impact caused by this draft, except for the additional administrative
overhead.


Kent // shepherd
>
>
>
Andy


> > On Nov 14, 2023, at 4:49 PM, Kent Watsen  wrote:
> >
> > Juergen, Tom, Andy,
> >
> > The previous WGLC for this draft didn’t succeed due to your comments.
> > Qin’s update (1) below removes all the (metric) specific node-tags.
> > All that is left now is the generic mechanism for tagging nodes.
> > Can you confirm that this update (-11) addresses your concerns?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2023, at 6:28 AM, Qin Wu  40huawei@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
> >> 1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and
> section 9.2 on IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
> >> 2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source
> implementation specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes
> classification.
> >> 3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.
> >>
> >> -Qin
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> >> 发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
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> >> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
> >>
> >> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It
> is a work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.
> >>
> >>  Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
> >>  Authors:  Qin Wu
> >>   Benoit Claise
> >>   Mohamed Boucadair
> >>   Peng Liu
> >>   Zongpeng Du
> >>  Name:draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
> >>  Pages:   30
> >>  Dates:   2023-10-21
> >>
> >> Abstract:
> >>
> >>  This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
> >>  the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
> >>  tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
> >>  nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
> >>  identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
> >>  well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
> >>  implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.
> >>
> >>  This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
> >>  writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.
> >>
> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/
> >>
> >> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
> >>
> >> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> >>
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
> >>
> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
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Re: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

2024-02-20 Thread Kent Watsen
Juergen, Tom, Andy,

Gentle reminder.

Kent // shepherd


> On Nov 14, 2023, at 4:49 PM, Kent Watsen  wrote:
> 
> Juergen, Tom, Andy,
> 
> The previous WGLC for this draft didn’t succeed due to your comments.
> Qin’s update (1) below removes all the (metric) specific node-tags.  
> All that is left now is the generic mechanism for tagging nodes.
> Can you confirm that this update (-11) addresses your concerns?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 6:28 AM, Qin Wu  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
>> 1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and section 9.2 
>> on IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
>> 2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source implementation 
>> specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes classification.
>> 3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.
>> 
>> -Qin
>> -邮件原件-
>> 发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 
>> internet-dra...@ietf.org
>> 发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
>> 收件人: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
>> 抄送: netmod@ietf.org
>> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
>> 
>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It is a 
>> work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.
>> 
>>  Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
>>  Authors:  Qin Wu
>>   Benoit Claise
>>   Mohamed Boucadair
>>   Peng Liu
>>   Zongpeng Du
>>  Name:draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
>>  Pages:   30
>>  Dates:   2023-10-21
>> 
>> Abstract:
>> 
>>  This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
>>  the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
>>  tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
>>  nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
>>  identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
>>  well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
>>  implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.
>> 
>>  This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
>>  writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.
>> 
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/
>> 
>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
>> 
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
>> 
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>> 
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Re: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

2023-11-14 Thread Kent Watsen
Juergen, Tom, Andy,

The previous WGLC for this draft didn’t succeed due to your comments.
Qin’s update (1) below removes all the (metric) specific node-tags.  
All that is left now is the generic mechanism for tagging nodes.
Can you confirm that this update (-11) addresses your concerns?

Thanks,
Kent


> On Oct 23, 2023, at 6:28 AM, Qin Wu  
> wrote:
> 
> v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
> 1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and section 9.2 
> on IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
> 2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source implementation 
> specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes classification.
> 3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.
> 
> -Qin
> -邮件原件-
> 发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 
> internet-dra...@ietf.org
> 发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
> 收件人: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
> 抄送: netmod@ietf.org
> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
> 
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It is a 
> work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.
> 
>   Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
>   Authors:  Qin Wu
>Benoit Claise
>Mohamed Boucadair
>Peng Liu
>Zongpeng Du
>   Name:draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
>   Pages:   30
>   Dates:   2023-10-21
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>   This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
>   the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
>   tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
>   nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
>   identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
>   well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
>   implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.
> 
>   This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
>   writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/
> 
> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
> 
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Re: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

2023-10-23 Thread Adrian Farrel
Thanks Qin,

I checked against your proposed resolution of my review comments and I don't 
see any issues.

Cheers,
Adrian

-Original Message-
From: netmod  On Behalf Of Qin Wu
Sent: 23 October 2023 11:28
To: NETMOD Group 
Subject: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and section 9.2 on 
IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source implementation 
specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes classification.
3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.

-Qin
-邮件原件-
发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 
internet-dra...@ietf.org
发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
收件人: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
抄送: netmod@ietf.org
主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It is a 
work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
   Authors:  Qin Wu
Benoit Claise
Mohamed Boucadair
Peng Liu
Zongpeng Du
   Name:draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
   Pages:   30
   Dates:   2023-10-21

Abstract:

   This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
   the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
   tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
   nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
   identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
   well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
   implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.

   This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
   writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/

There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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[netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

2023-10-23 Thread Qin Wu
v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and section 9.2 on 
IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source implementation 
specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes classification.
3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.

-Qin
-邮件原件-
发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 
internet-dra...@ietf.org
发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
收件人: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
抄送: netmod@ietf.org
主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt

Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It is a 
work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
   Authors:  Qin Wu
Benoit Claise
Mohamed Boucadair
Peng Liu
Zongpeng Du
   Name:draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
   Pages:   30
   Dates:   2023-10-21

Abstract:

   This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
   the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
   tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
   nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
   identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
   well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
   implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.

   This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
   writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/

There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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