Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 09:03:46AM +0900, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 01:17:56PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Juergen

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Bierman
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > Earlier today Mach and I were asking Lada if we could have a config list > w/o keys for our use case and he pointed us to this thread. > > This is exactly what we need. For some lists we don't need to

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-02 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 09:03:46AM +0900, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 01:17:56PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > > Hi, > > >

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 01:17:56PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the issues Y09 and Y57 were declared dead after intense discussions of > > various solution proposals. It later appeared to me that there is a >

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, Why is this WG discussing issues that have been declared DEAD for various reasons? Optional keys break old clients, remember? There was not enough interest in adding these features. Andy On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Nabil
Hi, I missed the earlier discussion around this topic prior to calling it DEAD. But here are some comments and ideas. There is interest in the security product business (access rules configuration for example). Some users don't want to deal with introducing keys that have to carry

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi, Earlier today Mach and I were asking Lada if we could have a config list w/o keys for our use case and he pointed us to this thread. This is exactly what we need. For some lists we don't need to operate on individual list members. We don't need to inject a member in front of another

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > Why is this WG discussing issues that have been declared DEAD for > various reasons? Optional keys break old clients, remember? Agreed. But I don't think the issue that Juergen brought up is related to Y09 (even though the mail subject says

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 01:17:56PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > the issues Y09 and Y57 were declared dead after intense discussions

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-11-01 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 02 Nov 2015, at 06:43, Nabil wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I missed the earlier discussion around this topic prior to calling it DEAD. > But here are some comments and ideas. > > There is interest in the security product business (access rules > configuration for

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-10-29 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Hi, > > the issues Y09 and Y57 were declared dead after intense discussions of > various solution proposals. It later appeared to me that there is a > solution that we have not considered. The requirement to have a key > for

Re: [netmod] config lists without keys (Y09) / non-unique leaf-lists (Y57)

2015-10-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 10:17, Juergen Schoenwaelder > wrote: > > Hi, > > the issues Y09 and Y57 were declared dead after intense discussions of > various solution proposals. It later appeared to me that there is a > solution that we have not considered. The