[netmod] Alia Atlas' Yes on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Alia Atlas
Alia Atlas has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

[netmod] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-23: (with COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-23: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please

Re: [netmod] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18

2018-03-06 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your review, Stephen! > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > > Reviewer: Stephen Farrell > > Review result: Ready > > > > > > I reviewed

Re: [netmod] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18

2018-03-06 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Thanks, Andy! On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Kathleen Moriarty > wrote: >> >> Thanks for your review, Stephen! >> >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Stephen Farrell >>

[netmod] Kathleen Moriarty's Yes on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

[netmod] Alexey Melnikov's Yes on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

[netmod] Closing this issue: choice/case in tree diagrams (draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-06)

2018-03-06 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear all, The document draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-06 is in AUTH48. It's time to close this issue, let me copy i...@ietf.org. If you object to the change below, let me know before the end of the week. The changes are to the text, so that the text is adapted to what the tools do. No

Re: [netmod] Suresh Krishnan's Discuss on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Andy Bierman
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and

[netmod] Suresh Krishnan's Discuss on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-03-06 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Suresh Krishnan has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-01.txt

2018-03-06 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Module Tags Authors : Christan Hopps Lou Berger

Re: [netmod] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18

2018-03-06 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Thanks for your review, Stephen! On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Reviewer: Stephen Farrell > Review result: Ready > > > I reviewed the diff between -18 and RFC6087. [1] > >[1] >

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/6/18 3:29 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Martin, > > > On March 6, 2018 4:44:47 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is >> in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: >> >>    This document

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi Rob, I agree but the fact is that some of the BBF models have constructions like that and we were wondering whether this should not be mentioned in the guildelines document. Normally a server can't set config true leafs if there is no default available in the model. That is the reason we

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Vladimir Vassilev
On 03/05/2018 06:40 PM, Per Hedeland wrote: On 2018-03-05 16:06, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 15:49 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: On 2018-03-05 15:41, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 15:26 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Juergen Schoenwaelder

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Lou Berger
Martin, On March 6, 2018 4:44:47 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: This document captures the current syntax used in YANG module tree

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: This document captures the current syntax used in YANG module tree diagrams. I have reached the conclusion that we probably shouldn't make any drastic

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 03:45:49PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > I agree that using well defined terms add clarity. However, the > proposed text is not quite right. Possibly: > > rw for configuration data- and choice nodes > ro for non-configuration data- and choice

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:44:11AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> >> OLD: >> >> is one of: >> rw for configuration data >> ro for non-configuration data, output parameters to rpcs >>

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 02:00:23PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:44:11AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > > > > >

[netmod] [Errata Rejected] RFC6020 (5272)

2018-03-06 Thread RFC Errata System
The following errata report has been rejected for RFC6020, "YANG - A Data Modeling Language for the Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)". -- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5272

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-00.txt

2018-03-06 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Module Tags Authors : Christan Hopps Lou Berger

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Lou Berger wrote: > Martin, > > > On March 6, 2018 4:44:47 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is > > in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: > > > >This

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Robert Wilton
On 06/03/2018 12:04, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: Rob, Just to clarify: in this case we are not changing the model, it is the same model but the device SW in release X is not supporting the feature and in release Y it is.  Supporting the feature results in adding that part of

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 11:34:02AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > I agree but the fact is that some of the BBF models have constructions like > that and we were wondering whether this should not be mentioned in the > guildelines document. Normally a server can't set

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:44:11AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > OLD: > > is one of: > rw for configuration data > ro for non-configuration data, output parameters to rpcs > and actions, and notification parameters > -w for input parameters

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Rob, Just to clarify: in this case we are not changing the model, it is the same model but the device SW in release X is not supporting the feature and in release Y it is. Supporting the feature results in adding that part of the tree to the configuration that is related to the feature and

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Benoit Claise
On 3/6/2018 10:44 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: This document captures the current syntax used in YANG module tree diagrams. I have reached the

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:44:11AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > OLD: > > > > is one of: > > rw for configuration data > > ro for non-configuration data, output parameters to rpcs > >

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Robert Wilton
Arguably the guidelines, or YANG, should say "don't allow this" ;-) I think that what you are describing is just another instance of "don't augment with a mandatory node rule", or "only backwards compatible changes revisions should be made to a published YANG module". The key reasoning

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Lou Berger
On 3/6/2018 7:10 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Lou Berger wrote: Martin, On March 6, 2018 4:44:47 AM Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 02:00:23PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 10:44:11AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > > > OLD: > > > > > > is one of: > > > rw for configuration data

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Bart, I think that the best solution to problem is perhaps to avoid it altogether.  I.e. I don't think that the only-if-feature leaf should be marked mandatory.  Instead, it would be better to define a sensible default value/behaviour if the leaf is absent even when the feature is

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > > > > On Mar 5, 2018, at 6:27 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Martin Bjorklund > wrote: > >> Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > >>> On Mon,

Re: [netmod] choice/case in tree diagrams

2018-03-06 Thread Robert Wilton
+1 for this solution. Thanks, Rob On 06/03/2018 09:44, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, After thinking some more about this, realizing that this document is in AUTH48, and looking at the first sentence in the Abstract: This document captures the current syntax used in YANG module tree