Re: [netmod] Interaction of 'when' and 'default' statements

2017-03-22 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
William, The when clause determines whether the node will be instantiated or not. Only when it is instantiated (when condition evaluates to true), the default property comes into the picture. At least, that is how I interpret it. Best regards - Vriendelijke groeten, Bart Bogaert -Original

Re: [netmod] Question about must statement in grouping

2017-03-29 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
mod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Sent: 29 March 2017 12:47 To: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] Question about must statement in grouping Hi, We have a question on the usage of a must statement within a grouping. Assume the following grouping groupi

[netmod] Question about must statement in grouping

2017-03-29 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question on the usage of a must statement within a grouping. Assume the following grouping grouping a-group { list a-list { must "count(.) != 1" { description "This list must either be empty or have at least 2 elements"; } key "entry";

Re: [netmod] Question about must statement in grouping

2017-03-29 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question about must statement in grouping "Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <bart.boga...@nokia.com> writes

[netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-03 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, Just to get confirmation on my assumptions: In section 4.7.3 the origin metadata does not include 'running' as origin but only 'intended'. So it seems to be mandatory for a NC server to support the intended datastore? With the introduction of the operational datastore I assume it

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-04 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 8:29 AM To: Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> Cc: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state" On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 10:06:23AM -0700, Andy Bier

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-04 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de <mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> > wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:59:58AM +0000, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) wrote: > > Just to get confirmation on my assumptio

[netmod] What is the best way to HW identities

2017-08-17 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hello, Within BBF we have had a discussion on the use of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-03, and we would appreciate to hear the opinion of IETF. More specific the discussion is on the use of the leaf 'class' and the leaf 'parent-rel-pos'. First some BBF context: - the systems for which BBF

Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state"

2017-08-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
jacobs-university.de] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:36 AM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc: Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Questions on NMDA and "merged config and state" On Fri, Aug 04, 2017

Re: [netmod] What is the best way to HW identities

2017-08-17 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
-identities to continue and align later when there would be standardized HW sub-identities. Best regards, Bart -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:02 PM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc:

[netmod] Question on intefaces-state model

2017-06-09 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question regarding the statistics container as defined in the interfaces-state model. This container defines one mandatory leaf (discontinuity-time) while all other leafs are optional. What is the rationale behind this leaf being mandatory and not an optional field? It does

Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model

2017-06-14 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
adimir Vassilev <vladi...@transpacket.com>; Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com>; Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on intefaces-state model On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:15:22AM +0100, Robert Wilton wrote: > &

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-13 - section 4.26.2

2017-08-28 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
-Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:12 PM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-13 - section 4.26.2 Hi, "Bogaert,

[netmod] Notications in interface model

2017-11-28 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hello, In the interfaces module we notice support of if-mib feature indicating whether the IF-MIB is supported or not. Part of this feature is a flag to indicate whether an SNMP link-up/down trap has to be generated or not. Looking at the YANG model itself we notice that it does not foresee

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-entity-05

2017-12-05 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hello, The latest draft does not contain an appendix with the deprecated state tree (to support the non-NMDA model as specified in RFC6087bis section 4.23.3), so if it is published in this way, there is an issue at the level of BBF TR-383. Note that the draft-ietfnetmod-rfc7223bis does include

[netmod] Question regarding YANG model revision (in context of submodules)

2017-12-14 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, I've been looking in various documents w.r.t. the usage of a model revision statement, especially in the case where the YANG model is split up in various submodules. Assume that one of the included submodules is changed and gets a new revision while the model this submodule belongs-to is

[netmod] Question on when-construction involving identities not detected as an error during module compilation

2018-05-18 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question on YANG module compilation. Assume the following model: module test-feat-compile { yang-version 1.1; namespace "http://www.example.com/test-feat-compile;; prefix "tfc"; identity failure-reason { description "The reason a failure occurred."; }

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2018-01-09 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi Martin, We had a discussion on this and we have some concerns about below statement (behavior in the description statement): >This leaf can be configured. The configured value is used only if >the server cannot determine the vendor-specific serial number from >the component

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2018-01-10 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, --- snip --- > state.”, so the above sentence only applies for the second case below. Ok. > 2. The second case is that something is detected but it can’t be read. > We do not see a reason to use the value configured for the leafs > ‘serial-num’, ‘mfg-name’ and ‘model-name’ of a matching

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-03.txt

2018-01-18 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We do have a question about the operational-state value 'not-present'. The revised data store draft document mentions that for resources that are not available (e.g. HW components) there will not be an entry for the state (see section 5.3.2) so for equipment there will never be a state

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2018-01-12 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi Martin, We agree with option 2. Regards, Bart -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:47 PM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] AD review of draf

Re: [netmod] Question on range for parent-rel-pos in ietf-hatrdware.yang versus RFC 6933 entPhysicalParentRelPos

2018-02-08 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Thanks Martin, this makes sense. Regards, Bart -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:24 AM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on

[netmod] Question on schema-mount

2018-02-08 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question w.r.t. deletion of entry in a list using mounted schema knowing that in NC/Y there is no such thing as a "cascading delete" (leafref constructions in many cases even makes it impossible to delete a resource if it is still referred). How does this apply to such a schema

[netmod] YANG 1.1 inline notifications

2018-09-05 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, I'm trying to seek some clarification. According to RFC7950 section 7.16.2: When a notification node is defined as a child to a data node, the element defined in [RFC5277] contains a hierarchy of nodes that identifies the node in the datastore. According to RFC6241 section 1.1: datastore:

[netmod] Question on edit-config statement (section 7.2)

2018-03-13 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question about the following statement in the edit-config RPC section: "If the operation contains multiple sub-operations that apply to the same conceptual node in the underlying data model, then the result of the operation is undefined (i.e., outside the scope of the NETCONF

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
:37 PM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; Alex Campbell <alex.campb...@aviatnet.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types... On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelde

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
age- From: Ladislav Lhotka [mailto:lho...@nic.cz] Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:55 AM To: Alex Campbell <alex.campb...@aviatnet.com>; Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com>; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types... Hi

[netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-05 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We were wondering if it would make sense to introduce features in the IANA if types YANG model to enable grouping of related interface types. This would allow implementations to include only the types it really requires (by supporting the related features but not the others) and (in case

[netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-05 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We have a question with respect to YANG models using features. Assume that a part of the model is defined under a feature and that this feature-dependent part defines a leaf as mandatory. module servers { namespace "http://www.example.com/servers;; prefix servers; import

Re: [netmod] Guideline on modeling including features and phased support by a device

2018-03-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
and the data leafs related to that feature are simply not there in the data configured when SW release X was active. Regards, Bart From: Robert Wilton [mailto:rwil...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 12:59 PM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <bart.boga...@nokia.com> Cc: netmod@ie

Re: [netmod] Question about schema-mount

2019-11-28 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi Martin, -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:28 AM To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question about schema-mount Hi, "Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [netmod] Question related to ietf-netconf-with-defaults

2020-05-08 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Seems that I better address this subject to ietf-netmode. Sorry for the trouble. Regards, Bart From: netconf On Behalf Of Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:55 PM To: netc...@ietf.org Subject: [netconf] Question related to ietf-netconf-with-defaults Hi, I have

[netmod] RFC 8802 (reset to factory defaults) versus RFC 8342 (NMDA)

2020-11-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We are a little confused when reading RFC8808 (reset to factory-default datastore) in relation to the "system configuration" source in figure 2 of RFC8342. When correctly understanding RFC 8342, the running datastore is empty when the system starts up after coming from the factory, and

[netmod] Question on the path element of the NACM YANG model

2021-12-23 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi, We are having some debate about the contents of the path element of an NACM rule when combined with the module-name element. Assume the following rule: nome-of-rule some-module /node-a/node-b/node-c read

Re: [netmod] Question on the path element of the NACM YANG model

2021-12-23 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Hi Juergen, Thanks for your interpretation. -Original Message- > From: Jürgen Schönwälder > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 11:37 AM > To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on the path element of the NACM YANG m