Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-25 Thread Steve (plusnet)
On 2014-06-25 13:51, Rob Kendrick wrote: Of course not :) But from the user's point of view, everything does stop :) Pesky users... :) Steve

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-25 Thread Tim Powys-Lybbe
On 25 Jun at 13:32, Steve (plusnet) st...@revi11.plus.com wrote: snip of technical discussion It is hoped that one of the later stages of filesystem improvements that we've been hosting bounties about on the ROOL site will address some of these issues, but at the current rate that the bounty

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-25 Thread Steve (plusnet)
On 2014-06-25 14:57, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: I have intermittently subscribed to a bounty or two. Rather than hijack this mailing list, you'd be welcome to post these questions to the ROOL bounty forum: https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/8 Cheers, Steve

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-25 Thread Tim Powys-Lybbe
On 25 Jun at 15:22, Steve (plusnet) st...@revi11.plus.com wrote: On 2014-06-25 14:57, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: I have intermittently subscribed to a bounty or two. Rather than hijack this mailing list, you'd be welcome to post these questions to the ROOL bounty forum:

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread David Pitt
Malcolm Hussain-Gambles, on 23 Jun, wrote: Just for a positive, I have a panda board my Internet connection is 120mbit. I do notice a difference. The Panda is going to be faster than a Raspberry Pi. From my understanding and benchmarks the sd card can write at 20MB/sec and the fastest tcp I

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread David Pitt
Rob Kendrick, on 23 Jun, wrote: [snip] Overall I was not persuaded that the cache results is any meaningful speed up and could even slow things up, not just on the Raspberry Pi but also on the Iyonix and VRPC on a Windows 7 laptop with an SSD. Certainly on UNIX and BeOS, it seems to

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread Peter Young
On 23 Jun 2014 Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:43:52 +0100, Peter Young wrote: Thanks, Chris. I've a couple of busy days coming up, with one early start, but I'll try to save a log after a new day's start-up, and give some timings of the

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 08:10:29 +0100, David Pitt wrote: !Cache on a RamDisc looks much more promising. This is much better, the improvement is clear, and the machine is not taken over as the cache is written. You do realise that this is more work for the computer to do than simply increasing

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread David Pitt
Daniel Silverstone, on 24 Jun, wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 08:10:29 +0100, David Pitt wrote: !Cache on a RamDisc looks much more promising. This is much better, the improvement is clear, and the machine is not taken over as the cache is written. You do realise that this is more work

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread David Pitt
Tony Moore, on 24 Jun, wrote: On 24 Jun 2014, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: [snip] !Cache on a RamDisc looks much more promising. This is much better, the improvement is clear, and the machine is not taken over as the cache is written. NetSurf already has a Memory Cache.

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-24 Thread Brian
In article mpro.n7mvk5008hres0700.pit...@pittdj.co.uk, David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Peter Young, on 23 Jun, wrote: I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS 2.19, ARMini, and I seem to have found some downsides to it, and I wonder if (a) I'm doing it correctly and (b) if it's

Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Young
I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS 2.19, ARMini, and I seem to have found some downsides to it, and I wonder if (a) I'm doing it correctly and (b) if it's worth the occasional faster opening of some sites. If I load, for instance, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ as the first site of a

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Chris Young
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:58:52 +0100, Peter Young wrote: If I load, for instance, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ as the first site of a session, it loads maybe a little faster, but then I get intermittent hourglass activity for sometimes up to thirty seconds, during which I can't do anything

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread David Pitt
Peter Young, on 23 Jun, wrote: I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS 2.19, ARMini, and I seem to have found some downsides to it, and I wonder if (a) I'm doing it correctly and (b) if it's worth the occasional faster opening of some sites. If I load, for instance,

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Young
On 23 Jun 2014 Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:58:52 +0100, Peter Young wrote: If I load, for instance, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ as the first site of a session, it loads maybe a little faster, but then I get intermittent hourglass

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Young
On 23 Jun 2014 David Pitt pit...@pittdj.co.uk wrote: Peter Young, on 23 Jun, wrote: I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS 2.19, ARMini, and I seem to have found some downsides to it, and I wonder if (a) I'm doing it correctly and (b) if it's worth the occasional faster opening of some

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Chris Young
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:13:17 +0100, Peter Young wrote: Thanks, Chris. I've a couple of busy days coming up, with one early start, but I'll try to save a log after a new day's start-up, and give some timings of the hourglass activity on the BBC news site. Where or to whom should I post the

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Peter Young
On 23 Jun 2014 Chris Young chris.yo...@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:13:17 +0100, Peter Young wrote: Thanks, Chris. I've a couple of busy days coming up, with one early start, but I'll try to save a log after a new day's start-up, and give some timings of the

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 07:04:53PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: Peter Young, on 23 Jun, wrote: I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS 2.19, ARMini, and I seem to have found some downsides to it, and I wonder if (a) I'm doing it correctly and (b) if it's worth the occasional faster opening

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Malcolm Hussain-Gambles
Just for a positive, I have a panda board my Internet connection is 120mbit. I do notice a difference. From my understanding and benchmarks the sd card can write at 20MB/sec and the fastest tcp I can get is 6MB/sec read and that's off a local webserver for testing purposes. So I can't see how

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Malcolm Hussain-Gambles
Perhaps having scrap and cache is causing issues on the same card? I use memphis for scrap? On 23 Jun 2014, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 07:04:53PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: Peter Young, on 23 Jun, wrote: I've been using the disc cache on RISC OS

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Chris Young
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:43:52 +0100, Peter Young wrote: Thanks, Chris. I've a couple of busy days coming up, with one early start, but I'll try to save a log after a new day's start-up, and give some timings of the hourglass activity on the BBC news site. Where or to whom should I post the

Re: Disc cache worth it?

2014-06-23 Thread Tony Moore
On 23 Jun 2014, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: [snip] On RISC OS, the disc cache *may* only be a win for people on slow connections. Using RISC OS on a RiscPC, with a slow internet connection, and Cache enabled, I found that launching half a dozen stories from Google News caused