Style sheets

2010-05-18 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
Reloading a document does not appear to re-load the style-sheet.

Is this intentional, an oversight or a bug?

BTW: the work that is being done is impressive. Especially as it's a
task which can never be finished. Thanks to all involved.

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!



Re: Style sheets

2010-05-18 Thread Jess Hampshire
In message 51193a8428li...@torrens.org.uk
  Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:

 Reloading a document does not appear to re-load the style-sheet.
 
 Is this intentional, an oversight or a bug?

Isn't it adjust for a complete reload, and select for a quick one 
(presumably not including the style sheet)?

-- 
Jess



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 18 May 2010  george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
 stable RISC OS release, should I continue to download and install test
 builds from the RISC OS section of the Downloads area? Presumably, at
 a certain point, these will fail due to incompatibility with the
 existing RO front end, but when? For the record, I'm running r10528 at
 the moment on RO 5.16 (Iyonix), which seems to work fine.

And I'm running r10550 on 5.16, ditto.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread george
In message 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net
  Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100
 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
 stable RISC OS release
 
 Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any of us every
 saying this.  Just that it was likely if somebody didn't come in and
 help with the RISC OS front end.
 
 Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say it.

You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see 
TIB article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 
2010:

Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is 
likely to be the last release for RISC OS. It is unlikely that RISC OS 
development builds will function for much longer after this, either.

In the context of that remark, I maintain that my question was a 
reasonable one, and appropriately phrased. That said, it is good to 
hear that development continues. Let's hope someone can spare the time 
to update the RO front end.

George

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Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:02:09 +0100
george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

  Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say
  it.  
 
 You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see 
 TIB article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 
 2010:
 
 Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is 
 likely to be the last release for RISC OS.
  ^^
  ^^

B.



Re: Style sheets

2010-05-18 Thread Graham Thurlwell
On the 18 May 2010, Jess Hampshire jesshampsh...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 In message 51193a8428li...@torrens.org.uk
   Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:

 Reloading a document does not appear to re-load the style-sheet.
 
 Is this intentional, an oversight or a bug?

 Isn't it adjust for a complete reload, and select for a quick one
 (presumably not including the style sheet)?

Yeah, you need to Adjust-click the reload button to reload the style 
sheets - found this out while messing on with the experimental version 
of of my site and being puzzled by the changes to the CSS not seeming 
to have taken effect.

-- 
Graham Thurlwell.
Jades' First Encounters Site.
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Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dave Symes
In article 5119729ccbrh.li...@phone.coop,
   Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote:
 In article
 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net,
Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any
  of us every saying this.  Just that it was likely if
  somebody didn't come in and help with the RISC OS front
  end.

  Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it
  until we say it.

 I have lost count of the number of times that Rob has had to
 make this point, in various different places.

 It would be nice to think that people actually *read* these
 postings.

 :-)

Probably part of the same syndome that causes people to not see the words
written, but some invisible ones that present among the lines one has
actually written.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 18 May, Tim Hill wrote in message
51196f11fe...@timil.com:

 In article 56328.82.109.43.222.1274200724.squir...@91.84.211.154, Steve
 Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  And, for the record, once things have stabilised following 2.5, I hope
  there will still be work done on the RISC OS front-end -- time
  permitting.
 
 Excellent news. Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not aware that this is a clarification: it's what has been said all
along, and sounded very much like what visitors to the NetSurf stand were
being told at the Wakefield Show (at least from where I was standing on the
day).

The same caveats (and opportunities for others to help in numerous ways)
still stand, too.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 18 May, george wrote in message
d3906f1951.acl...@tiscali.co.uk:

 You did say it. OK, the word 'stable' was not used, but implied: see TIB
 article 'Last RISC OS version of NetSurf announced', dated 14 Jan 2010:
 
 Team spokesman Michael Drake said earlier today: NetSurf 2.5 is likely
 to be the last release for RISC OS. It is unlikely that RISC OS
 development builds will function for much longer after this, either.

You can make statements say anything you want, if you take selective bits
out of context and quote them.  The rest of that Iconbar article made the
situation clear, although the headline was a lillte tabloid (and I pointed
that out at the time).

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/



Re: test builds after 2.5

2010-05-18 Thread Dave Higton
In message 20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net
  Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100
 george george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
  Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last 
  stable RISC OS release
 
 Where did the developers say this?  I don't remember any of us every
 saying this.  Just that it was likely if somebody didn't come in and
 help with the RISC OS front end.
 
 Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it until we say it.

Agreed.  I continue to be amazed at the number of people who post
to RO mailing lists and newsgroups, who have poor comprehension
skills; i.e. they read some words and somehow extract a meaning
from them that is clearly different from what was written.

Dave