Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-07-11 Thread Dave Symes
In article ,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:
> Tim Hill  wrote on 11 Jul:

> > Yes, I think that was Jim's desire: click on a link to a PDF on a
> > webpage and it opens in your default PDF viewer without the save-drag
> > & double-click.

> Gzackly.  The extra steps are too much for the technophobic Mrs N.  
> She can view a Jpeg link without extra steps, so why must Netsurf 
> require fifflefaffle for PDF?

> (Similar Q for MPro (and Pluto?) email with Jpeg vs PDF attachments.)

I know this is not what you want to see/hear...

When I get a PDF attached email in Pluto I have absolutely no problem
double clicking the attachment PDF and getting it opened in *my* default
PDF reader... Foxit PDF reader.

I get so many PDFs these days that will not open in RISC OS PDF readers... 
There are only so many times an app can piss me off before I give up and
get the stuff transferred automatically via Uniserver to the PC side and
Foxit.

Dave

-- 

Dave Triffid



Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-07-11 Thread Jim Nagel
Tim Hill  wrote on 11 Jul:

> Yes, I think that was Jim's desire: click on a link to a PDF on a webpage
> and it opens in your default PDF viewer without the save-drag &
> double-click.

Gzackly.  The extra steps are too much for the technophobic Mrs N.  
She can view a Jpeg link without extra steps, so why must Netsurf 
require fifflefaffle for PDF?

(Similar Q for MPro (and Pluto?) email with Jpeg vs PDF attachments.)


-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk





Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-07-11 Thread Tim Hill
In article <48a3670f57.ga...@wra1th.plus.com>, Gavin Wraith
 wrote:
> But maybe the whole point of what you are looking for is that it acts
> automatically without the user having to start it?

Yes, I think that was Jim's desire: click on a link to a PDF on a webpage
and it opens in your default PDF viewer without the save-drag &
double-click.

-- 

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk



Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-06-29 Thread Frederick Bambrough
On 28 June 2018 19:13:56 BST, Tim Hill  wrote:
[snip]
>It's easy to think NetSurf really ought to have to option to Filer_Run
>any file it doesn't understand after downloading it but it doesn't; it 
>leaves you to do that which is fine up to a point but a shame because
>it
>prevents sound and video playing from a link, just as it makes you open
>your downloaded PDFs 'manually'. 
>
>I'm expecting to find a utility somewhere which will monitor a specific
>folder and filer_run anything saved there but having no luck so far.

Though on more popular OSs many take the opportunity to selectively disable 
auto-run net stuff for obvious reasons.
-- 
Fred
@ypical ink



Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-06-28 Thread Gavin Wraith
In message <570f5c0542...@timil.com>
  Tim Hill  wrote:

>In article , Richard Porter
> wrote:

>I'm expecting to find a utility somewhere which will monitor a specific
>folder and filer_run anything saved there but having no luck so far.

Talk of monitoring implies something that runs as a task and which
stores the state of the folder and only acts when it notes that the
state has changed. For a lot less effort you could have a utility
that you start yourself, say by doubleclicking on its icon,
that simply filer_runs whatever appropriate stuff it finds in the folder.
But maybe the whole point of what you are looking for is that it
acts automatically without the user having to start it?

--
Gavin Wraith (ga...@wra1th.plus.com)
Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/



Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-06-28 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Richard Porter
 wrote:
> On 28 Jun 2018 Jim Nagel  wrote:

> > When you click the link for a Jpeg (or various other types of file),
> > the file opens immediately.  Why does PDF behave differently?  What
> > is the mechanism involved?

> I think that offering a save dialogue is the norm. Netsurf processes
> JPEG, GIF and PNG files itself, plus html and text of course, so
> there's no need to save them.

It's easy to think NetSurf really ought to have to option to Filer_Run
any file it doesn't understand after downloading it but it doesn't; it 
leaves you to do that which is fine up to a point but a shame because it
prevents sound and video playing from a link, just as it makes you open
your downloaded PDFs 'manually'. 

I'm expecting to find a utility somewhere which will monitor a specific
folder and filer_run anything saved there but having no luck so far.

-- 

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk



Re: launching a PDF from a link

2018-06-28 Thread Richard Porter
On 28 Jun 2018 Jim Nagel  wrote:

> When you click the link for a Jpeg (or various other types of file),
> the file opens immediately.  Why does PDF behave differently?  What is
> the mechanism involved?

I think that offering a save dialogue is the norm. Netsurf processes JPEG, 
GIF and PNG files itself, plus html and text of course, so there's no need 
to save them.

> And why does the PDF link cause BOTH the download dialogue AND a blank
> web page to appear?

It doesn't unless there's a target="_new" argument or equivalent and 
you've got "Allow links to open in new windows" ticked in Choices > 
Content.

BUT

It's different if you click on an html link in Messenger Pro. In that case 
NetSurf always opens a new window and then decides what to do. I raised a 
feature request about this ages ago, but to no avail.

Richard
-- 
Richard Porter  http://www.minijem.plus.com/
t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.