nettime Re: new

2005-11-15 Thread severn
nah, i dont think people really think new is 'new' do they? isnt new media now a label not a literal definition? like net.art or New Zealand? adam I'm always amused when I find a new street that isn't. Here we have a new new street (as opposed to the old new street) that was built around the

nettime : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent

2003-10-08 Thread monica ross
Re: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 Are Flagan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is why your readymade-for-teacher-conference aphorisms about educators who educate people to think for themselves stink of the implicit move toward intellectual narrowing and oppression that in turn invokes your frequent anti-intellectual

Re: nettime : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent

2003-10-08 Thread Benjamin Geer
monica ross wrote: Yes, some people are getting paid and others are paying - in some countries, including ones rich enough for it to be free to all. And in some countries, it *is* free for all. Funnily enough, in France for example, the idea of the 'student as consumer', dictating what he or

RE: nettime : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent

2003-10-08 Thread Nato Thompson
for radical strategies. For intellectuals. I suspect this issue is larger than the classroom. Tip top, nato -Original Message- From: monica ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: nettime : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent

Re: nettime : Re: New Media Education and Its Discontent

2003-10-08 Thread svetlana null null null
Nato Thompson wrote: (...) Intellectuals (and I don't have nearly as much antipathy for them as Mr. Flagan) could really use a PR team. But what would that require? Possibly having things to say that are important to everyday people. Maybe having a visible platform to discuss ideas (Possessing