Re: nettime RE: cybernetics and the Internet

2006-06-16 Thread richard
I believe that he thought he could warn people about where our technology was taking us in the 1948-52 time period. At some point, after giving scores of speeches and writing his warnings in the Saturday Evening Post and wherever he could, he stopped. Stopped cold. Norbert Wiener's

Re: nettime RE: cybernetics and the Internet

2006-06-13 Thread Newmedia
Brian/Ken/etal: In particular I'm wondering where it might be possible to consult the 1951 edition of Wiener's The Human Use of Human Beings. Was the entire book altered? Or only a key chapter? If so, could that chapter be scanned and distributed? Mark Stahlman refers to an alteration, but

Re: nettime RE: cybernetics and the Internet

2006-06-13 Thread Charles Baldwin
_Hamlet's Mill_ is amazing. It might be interesting to see how it emerges from the Newtonian and Bergsonian Time chapter of _Cybernetics_. The book is co-authored with Herta von Dechend (the Jungianism - I think she brings this along - is a limitation on the book). _Hamlet's Mill_ has fascinating

nettime RE: cybernetics and the Internet

2006-06-12 Thread kenneth c. werbin
Hi Brian- Thanks so much for your depthful thoughts, compliments and for the link to your work. I look forward to reading it. These ideas come from my dissertation work entitled 'The List Serves: Bare Life in Open Social Order' which I am getting closer and closer to completing at Concordia