Rethinking Tactical Space in Vienna

2003-10-16 Thread Konrad Becker
After nearly 100 events- from political discussions to performances and parties- the tactical media squat "Freies Mediencamp" on the Vienna Karlsplatz has received notice of a planned forced eviction. Although high level politicians (like the Vice Mayor) have been on location discussing the issues

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Ian Dickson
> >but to rerun an old story or a continuing one for me - this is what >troubles me about the reliance of fsfer's in whatever there guise on >rigid forms of law ... if the fsf thingy is possibly "anti - property" >or "proprietary" why not make the blatant choice of styling your legal >language or "

Re: What *ARE* New Media?

2003-10-16 Thread Phil Graham
Lots of people ask me "what do you mean by 'new media'?". To me, it is a term that only has meaning in relation to older media at any given time in history. Paper was once a new medium. Television, telegraph, radio, the alphabet, etc were all new media at one time. It is a term that, for me, i

Re: Re: executed-coat-thief

2003-10-16 Thread Carl Guderian
On 21 January, 1793 (2 Pluviose?, Year I of the Republic, One and Indivisible), Citoyen Louis Capet was beheaded. Absent other notable prunings of the Royal family tree, Europeans could combine, as Americans did with Presidents' Day (combining birthdays of Lincoln and Washington) the two regicides

Re: Democracy divided by Corporations = US Elections

2003-10-16 Thread joseph rabie
> > >>Anyone interested in expressions of democracy and computers may find this >>thorough overview very interesting. The facts and figures have >>been bouncing >>around for awhile in different features, but The Independent, >>today, finally >>put many of them together on the front page online -- a

Re: New Media Education and Its Disconnects

2003-10-16 Thread Ian Dickson
David Patterson writes: > >jonCates wrote: > >> part of the benefit of an emphasis on "critical thinking" is that >> students can be taught to recognize that they will not be able (in >> the current situation @ least) to secure any single job [+/or] avoid >> being uninsured for periods of time [+

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Florian Cramer
Am Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003 um 11:48:53 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Morlock Elloi: > > > A gentle proposition given that the product was in breach with the GPL. > > Alternatively, the FSF could have asked to revoke all Linksys routers > > from the market and pay, say $10 compensation for each unit alre

Re: executed-coat-thief

2003-10-16 Thread Brett Shand
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:28:22 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Von: richard barbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> Rather than refighting ancient faction fights, it's more >> interesting to question why the English don't have their >> equivalent of the 14th July and 4th July holidays: an annual

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Hardie
My dear Morlock >And no, I don't delegate fuckers from FSF/Cygnus to represent me. > and no you should not !!! but to rerun an old story or a continuing one for me - this is what troubles me about the reliance of fsfer's in whatever there guise on rigid forms of law ... if the fsf thingy is p

Re: the Styrian Oak in California

2003-10-16 Thread porculus
> One student at University of California said he was voting for Arnie so > that his name would be on his diploma when he graduated in 2004. fiction doesnt run according the same rules ov phisic, ethic & even esthetics than in 'reallity', otherwise we would be completly found to sez hollywood is g

Re: New Media Education and Its Disconnects

2003-10-16 Thread David Patterson
jonCates wrote: > part of the benefit of an emphasis on "critical thinking" is that > students can be taught to recognize that they will not be able (in > the current situation @ least) to secure any single job [+/or] avoid > being uninsured for periods of time [+/or] not experience various > de

At Your Own Risk

2003-10-16 Thread Ryan Griffis
>> Medrano says she doesn't know what kind of chemical she splashed on her face, nor was she warned about the product or its potential danger -- and such perilous oversights are all too common in the industry. Injuries related to chemical exposures such as Medrano's range from skin irritation and b

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Morlock Elloi
> A gentle proposition given that the product was in breach with the GPL. > Alternatively, the FSF could have asked to revoke all Linksys routers > from the market and pay, say $10 compensation for each unit already > sold. (In other words: $4M which could be used, for example, to pay > Linus Torv

Re: What *ARE* New Media?

2003-10-16 Thread steven schkolne
hmm, i always thought new media was just a way to talk about multimedia without sounding dated audio/visual -> multimedia -> new media -> integrated media -> whatever or maybe this is the history: computer art -> new media -> digital art anyway, imho new media is not a very descriptive term,

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Hardie
The Linux article I posted yesterday (without endorsing it of course) is also subject of discussion at the commons-law list in India. I thought nettimers may be interested in their comments. Sorry but at the moment i haven't had a chance to try and say anything sensible about this ... just a mai

Re: Linux strikes back III

2003-10-16 Thread Ian Dickson
> >But now there's a problem. The Linux software in the router is distributed >under the GNU General Public License (GPL), which the Free Software >Foundation created in 1991. > >Under the license, if you distribute GPL software in a product, you must >also distribute the software's source code. An

FW: Democracy divided by Corporations = US Elections

2003-10-16 Thread Camille Baker
-- Forwarded Message From: Sara Dent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:18 -0700 To: Camille Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FW: Democracy divided by Corporations = US Elections I suggest the below go out on list serves. The balloting system in the United States is indeed a

RE: Democracy divided by Corporations = US Elections

2003-10-16 Thread douwe
It doesn't has to be this way. A while back somebody posted on Kuro5hin a smart approach on how to this open, verifiable and honest: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/9/4/18148/56550 - - - Douwe Osinga http://douweosinga.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[E