Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
dear tobias, dear nettimers, i would merely like to congratulate tobias and the team in montreal for organising the meeting! i don't really understand the bickering and, tobias, don't worry, the fact that this meeting has taken place is already a great achievement, after many years of trying to

nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Alessandra Renzi
Greetings from a lurker, I guess if I don't chime in now, I never will. I just wanted to thank Tobias for his report on the meeting. Finally someone has said a few things that needed to come out. Now I am curious to see what the reactions will be. Hopefully, this will start a constructive

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Bas van Heur
I'll skip the comment on European levels of funding (I mean, tobias, Canada is hardly an underfunded environment and seems rather comfortable for a lot of people in Europe), but the questions raised by tobias' remarks on events and funding as well as the intimidating atmosphere on the list deserve

Re: nettime hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion

2006-06-07 Thread { brad brace }
just in case it's not obvious the nettime problem continues to be undue moderation people won't be bothered to compose posts (compost) if they are blocked (constipation) /:b # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net

nettime calling all lurkers

2006-06-07 Thread Brian Holmes
It's fascinating, funny and welcome, to read the debates arising from the efforts of that long list of people whom Tobias has named as the movers, shakers and happening-makers of nettime's assymetrical 10th birthday party. Wish I could've made it. Thought about it but it proved impossible. Sounds

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Paul D. Miller
Tobias - I regret I wasn't able to make it. I'm in a remote spot in Switzerland at the moment, but followed the progress of the event with interest. Glad to see that it went well! We should try something in NYC. I think that the list has been a bit flat for a while, but hey, there's always more

Re: nettime hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion

2006-06-07 Thread John Young
Yes, the NNA report was somewhat informative but smeared, obscured, lipsmacked by the trivial sidebar complaint. What fear, of what or whom? Truce for what, a minor snit sniffle, piffle? And what is this illiteracy about stars and the little nobodies aching to lick their shriveleds as if

nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Nina Czegledy
Hello All, greetings from Budapest, I was one of the few lucky ones to make it (in the nick of time) to the Montreal meeting. I found the presentations and the discussions very informative and once more, it brought home to me that activism is a multilayered, many faceted (and in our case often

nettime The EU and democratic role for citizen?

2006-06-07 Thread Ronda Hauben
In light of: 1. Merkel and Chirac set timetable for EU constitution - 07.06.2006 - 09:39 The leaders of France and Germany have agreed a new timetable for trying to revive the EU constitution setting 2008 as the year

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Murphy
On Jun 7, 2006, at 5:13 AM, Andreas Broeckmann wrote: (for me the question is, whether it is possible to get out of the stale-mate that the list seems to be in; is it possible to make communication more fluid again, or is the list just too old after 11 years? vuk - whatever happened to the

nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread Alessandra
Well, now that the background noise seems to be moving to the foreground, now that we have had the time to also see how much maybe was indeed student whining and above all, now that it seems that a lot of people are willing to discuss, what to do? This is the hard part... Not sure but

RE: nettime NNA critical openings and closings

2006-06-07 Thread werboon
There was a passionate point raised near the end of NNA, that just when people begin to critically say something on/about nettime, discussion quickly gets shut down, generally through the invocation of 'highbrow theory' and/or 'academic references'. And while this is true to a certain extent,

Re: nettime calling all lurkers

2006-06-07 Thread Alan Sondheim
I want to agree w/ Brian here - nettime for me ironically has the status of a book, not only because of peripheral publishing, but also because of the functioning of the list, little chatter, more emendations, articles, considered replies, some fecundity kept at a minimum. All of this would

FW: nettime NNA critical openings and closings

2006-06-07 Thread kenneth c. werbin
There was a passionate point raised near the end of NNA, that just when people begin to critically say something on/about nettime, discussion quickly gets shut down, generally through the invocation of 'highbrow theory' and/or 'academic references'. And while this is true to a certain extent,

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread t byfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wed 06/07/06 at 12:38 PM -0400): But if our absence merely ended up paving the way for a 'private' -- through commission and omission -- event, can you tell me why exactly the name nettime had or has anything to do with it? Yikes..! double-yikes, indeed! this

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread John Hopkins
Thanks Tobias for the report -- I was a bit dismayed to receive the email announcing the stream too late to tune in, as I had wanted to. Although many of the issues definitely hit home, I guess I have found that nettime front-channel is what it is. I rely on it for noisy and occasionally

Re: nettime report_on_NNA

2006-06-07 Thread John Hopkins
Let's say for the sake of argument that nettime is actually run by Satan himself. Do his motives matter? For most subscribers' purposes I think the answer is probably no. The very worst I could do is a pale shadow by comparison with him, so it seems like my motives would be that much less

nettime The Ontological Museum Project

2006-06-07 Thread Cecil Touchon
Hi Brian and all, I have been lurking here for some time and thought I would respond to your cry... The internet remains for me a great tool especially for conceptualization and projecting ideas into my slice of the art world. As some of you know I am the founder of the Ontological