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2004-08-11 Thread John
Look for China to implode medium term: Signs of overheating are unmistakable: an explosion of credit; rampant overcapacity (nine tenths of manufacturing goods are in oversupply); and the return of inflation (2.8% in the first quarter of 2004). President Hu Jintao, and his prime minister, Wen

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2004-08-10 Thread David Mandl
Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Some US firms prefer cons to Indians* USA Today Ontario, July 8 [http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5922_873417,00150022.htm] But the convicted workforce elicits as much dread as interest. Companies flinch at the prospect of a public-relations

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2004-08-09 Thread Jeebesh Bagchi
coco fusco wrote: Here is some data to replace idle speculation... Lets me define what i mean by wage before we launch too much into positioning games. (well it seems one need to explain one's temerity to compare the so-called incommensurables!) Wage is a monetary equivalent of the value

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2004-08-09 Thread nettime's white collar sweatshop
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2004-08-08 Thread Jeebesh Bagchi
Even Mexico, where the minimum wage is not enough to feed a family of four, is losing maquiladoras weekly to China. Is one persons wage sufficient to maintain a family in Europe and US? Just, curious. My own travel in the US and Europe amongst professionals, makes it clear that two persons

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2004-08-08 Thread coco fusco
Here is some data to replace idle speculation... Mexico has three minimum wages, which vary according to the cost of living in different areas. In 2004 the minimum wage in Mexico City and along the US border is 45.24 pesos (about US$4.10) per day. In smaller urban centers, the minimum wage will

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2004-08-08 Thread andrew
We should make an analysis of the term minimum wage, as it is not a living wage. Minimize wage, lower labour costs and increase production- the traditional mantra of profit... Since we are describing wage sufficiency for the domesticity of a European/US family vs. a family indigenous to

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2004-08-07 Thread Rana Dasgupta
Dear All Have not been able to reply to this thread for some time. Some thoughts on what is past. I don't think etymologies of the sort offered earlier about the word sweatshop prove anything. Quite obviously there is nothing about the word itself which implies a particular geographical

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2004-08-07 Thread coco fusco
I doubt if China could account for 40% of world economic growth last year by sweatshop methods alone, any more than Britain could in Marx's day. I'm all for discussions of labor exploitation in the global economy but it seems to me that there is a bit of disingenuousness going on here... I

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2004-08-05 Thread Keith Hart
It's funny how some threads run past their sell-by date, especially in summer time. I know it's old-fashioned, but we can do better than dictionaries, anecdotes and introspection. Karl Marx has a theory of sweatshops which he lays out in a long section of Capital Volume 1 on 'absolute and

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2004-08-04 Thread nettime's sweaty digestion
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2004-08-04 Thread Dan S. Wang
. Dan w. Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:11:51 -0700 From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nettime The Art of Sweatshops A sweatshop is a factory, usually in a developing or Third World country and especially in Asia, where people work for a very small wage, producing products such as clothes

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2004-08-02 Thread Rana Dasgupta
Yes thank you. 'Sweatshop' seems to be an epithet of race and geography, not an analytical category. Chinese production houses, whether in Shenzhen or Manhattan, are always 'sweatshops'. 'White' production, on the other hand, is rarely carried out in 'sweatshops' (although sometimes the word is

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2004-08-01 Thread Andrew Ross
York University 285 Mercer St. 8th Floor NY, NY 10003 - Original Message - From: nettime's spam kr!t!k [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 1, 2004 9:08 am Subject: nettime The Art of Sweatshops [In the context of the recent 'painting web pages' discussion ... The original subject line