Re: nettime Gender and You

2006-10-13 Thread Charles Baldwin
I'm just catching up with this debate and it's already quite complicated. Because of that, I can't pretend to address it directly. I think that most of this is beyond sorting out, and I think at this point the discussion isn't about Sondheim's Gender and Me post or even about Alan Sondheim as

Re: nettime Gender and You

2006-10-13 Thread John Young
Feminism is not the same as women, maybe not about most of them either. It addresses a fairly small set of some women's interests, and some of those women extrapolate their interests to women in general. And a small number of men use this as a means to presume to know what women are and, to be

Re: nettime Gender and You

2006-10-09 Thread Danny Butt
Let's try this another way. Alan, you forwarded a piece called Gender and You to an overwhelmingly male list. If you're that interested in gender, maybe you'd familiarise yourself with a few decades of feminist philosophy and criticism (empirically the largest body of work on gender issues) and

Re: nettime Gender and You

2006-10-08 Thread Alan Sondheim
I'm not sure how much longer nettime will let me go on, but I feel again I have to respond; now I'm an Orientalist as well as sexist. This is one of the ugliest exchanges I've had - maybe the ugliest - but I can't let it go. On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, Kali Tal wrote: I do find the Nikuko pieces