Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-10-14 Thread florian schneider
[this message got stuck in my outbox while travelling from one outgoing mailserver to another... sorry for the delay /fls] On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 12:49 PM, David Garcia wrote: It is a sad truth that although imperfect, the most effective guarantor of the personal safety upon

Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-09-24 Thread David Garcia
All too often we have encountered a fear of freedom amongst radical activists. There is a deep desire to call for regulation and control that, in the past, the nation-state and its repressive apparatus had to enforce upon the out-of-control capitalism. As true techno-libertarians we have to

Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-09-24 Thread Brian Holmes
David Garcia writes: There are many hells in this world and many (admittedly by no means all) of the worst occur when not only through oppressive by states, but when states break down. Without going so far as Gide's fear and trembling (David, does rhetorical excess produce rhetorical