Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-09 Thread Alex Foti
the white working class and the downwardly mobile middle class have constituted an electoral majority on protectionism and racism - the rust belt states proved crucial - it's huntington's vengeance and hooverism - but the country is evidently nonwhite postpatriarchal - true it was a vote against

Re: Cybernetics and the Pioneers of Computer Art

2016-11-09 Thread Thomas Dreher
Dear Armin, The "and" between cybernetics and pioneers of computer art is relevant in my article, but not in your critic. For other relevant artists see my "History of Computer Art". The lecture on "Cybernetics and the Pioneers of Computer Art" summarizes my efforts to propose a start of the

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-09 Thread Morlock Elloi
The lasting legacy of the progressive royalty is displacement of artistic, scientific and generally intellectual prowess by the banality of minority membership(s). Empowering creepdoms of various persuasions *is* the principal tool of identity politics, and we have just encountered its limits.

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-09 Thread Keith Hart
I have just posted this on Facebook. It is not the sort of thing you would expect on nettime, but is meant sincerely, even if I could change my mind about a lot of it pretty quickly. You will learn more about Trump in coming months. He isn't the Mussolini (but with frightening power) that he

Re: PTS post trump syndrome - the suicide of the west

2016-11-09 Thread Brian Holmes
On 11/09/2016 11:04 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: Austria is next, and the "soziale Heimatpartei" is ready and fired up. We will know if civil society remains stronger here on Dezember 4th. The political parties have already given up. I agree with your analysis, Felix: the status quo for which the

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-09 Thread Eric Miller
So I live in a very blue coastal state. Every couple months I manage to get up into the mountains. And every time I’ve been up there in the past couple years, I’ve passed a large truck in testing camouflage. It’s an autonomous truck, being run around and around and around the mountain to

Re: PTS post trump syndrome - the suicide of the west

2016-11-09 Thread Felix Stalder
I was also confident that Clinton would win. And I was even hoping she would win, but what was I hoping for. I was hoping for the continuation of a system that I know full well is unsustainable and its continuation is undesirable. Of course, I was hoping for that because the alternative on offer

What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-09 Thread Brian Holmes
The shock that now assails the ruling classes is in direct proportion to their blindness. If you were shocked, then you shared in that blindness. Like the Remain camp in the UK, the US Democratic Party was sure of its victory. Twenty years ago under the leadership of Bill Clinton, the Dems had

Re: PTS post trump syndrome - the suicide of the west

2016-11-09 Thread Morlock Elloi
Walter Hill, the director of Streets of Fire, mentioned in an interview that he wanted to use every cliche known to man, and create a celebration of cliches. This seems to be the case with the anti-orange crowd, that lived in the cliche world of identity politics divorced from the reality,

Re: Cybernetics and the Pioneers of Computer Art

2016-11-09 Thread Armin Medosch
dear Thomas, I really hate to say this, because I really respect your work, you are a very good researcher but this piece once more perpetuates the myth of a purely Western computer art and cybernetics. A few years ago this might have been an oversight, one could have said there was not enough