Re: Locating ArtScience

2017-12-14 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Dear Gary, > On 14 Dec 2017, at 17:06, Gary Hall wrote: > The only thing I might add would be that, for me, any such subjectivity would > not assume that the boundaries between the human and nonhuman are drawn > arbitrarily. Nor that they are largely meaningless. Rather,

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Thank you for this post. The analogy to space and property values in Dubai...perfectly clear. A city surely growing on overinflated speculative wealth —and the fantasies of power that go with it—-not to mention other cities, maybe Shanghai, that attract foreign, western capital. Operative word:

'La Casemate', Grenoble FabLab burned down by anti-digital activists

2017-12-14 Thread Patrice Riemens
bwo Tetalab List Original to: https://hackernoon.com/in-france-cyber-criticism-turns-violent-as-activists-burn-a-fablab-to-protest-the-diffusion-of-4ad378251c5b In France, cyber criticism turns violent as “activists” burn a fablab to protest the diffusion of digital culture What will be the

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread uno
uno: > Kenneth Fields: > > Priestbots would serve as the voice of the never seen/heard/manifest OneBot. > > that LOVE started with a touch(screen). by siris, alexas etc. we get used to. > but, would probably be the first god who actually answers. will be a success > I guess. >

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread uno
Kenneth Fields: > Priestbots would serve as the voice of the never seen/heard/manifest OneBot. that LOVE started with a touch(screen). by siris, alexas etc. we get used to. but, would probably be the first god who actually answers. will be a success I guess.

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread Kenneth Fields
I want to LIKE this one. Where’s the like button on this nettime thing? If there’s anything ripe for disruption, it’s religion. What IS religion without the middle man/institution, but a contradiction in terms. So not p2p, but p2g-od? God is replaced by Bot - that never manifests… Now that

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread Felix Stalder
Bitcoin seems, to me, to indicate how much criminal, speculative money there is out there, seeking risk worth taking, rather than "investing" in a traditional sense. There is simply too much money held by too few people who now trade it among themselves, rather than seeking to extract surplus

Re: Never Mind the Bitcoin?

2017-12-14 Thread Patrice Riemens
On 2017-12-13 20:41, Morlock Elloi wrote: Bitcoin successfully hijacked a sizable amount of public belief, which underwrites any fiat currency, and it doesn't get more fiat than Bitcoin. This is continuation of the phenomena of machine amplification of human activities; machines do it better