Re: Periodizing With Control

2019-06-16 Thread Jeebesh Bagchi
In Postcript Deleuze writes: "As for markets, they are conquered sometimes by specialization, sometimes by colonization, sometimes by lowering the costs of production. But, in the present situation, capitalism is no longer involved in production, which it often relegates to the Third World, eve

Re: Unlike Us links on social media and their alternatives

2019-06-16 Thread Morlock Elloi
Mmmm no. Communication sovereignty is a power equation issue, and will likely become a new class issue (surveilled class vs. surveillor class.) Saying that these efforts are futile and doomed forever is nonsense - class struggles overcame far steeper obstacles. The only question is when will

Re: Pilger on flow of information

2019-06-16 Thread John Young
Fine for offense for estabished, seasoned journalists beholden to commercial publishers to promote the industry as defenders of, well, the superstructure varies, but usually rests on the advertising foundation, or generous benefactors of the NGO species, not to overlook the evenly more capaci

Re: Periodizing With Control

2019-06-16 Thread Emaline Friedman
Garnet, I laughed at your response ! Not at all interested in tearing you apart, but wanting to explore this sense of "who cares?", toward which I'm also inclined. What really makes me think "who cares" is the obvious careerism baked into the argument. I think one could put Seb's basic idea in a

EVMs... in India

2019-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha
For those interested in tracking the issue of electronic voting machines in India (particularly after the mid-2019 elections), check out this link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScFNbd39hVVViZEjC868YMUW6Th_Zu8CbfOjp9_8oAZ6_0vrg/viewform # distributed via : no commercial use without per

Re: Unlike Us links on social media and their alternatives

2019-06-16 Thread Marcell Mars aka Nenad Romic
irc is beautiful. also fun. from https://sobtec.gitbooks.io/sobtec2/content/en/content/05irc.html "The same feature that allowed IRC to become a mass media in the 1990s actually prevents its from mainstream adoption in the 2010s. Users dropping into a channel, asking a question, then leaving in fr

Pilger on flow of information

2019-06-16 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Dear nettime, This interview is an impressive account, if you have not read one—and by one of our most impressive brothers—- of the attacks and governmental punishment of journalists in a several countries, and the falling down of free press and flow of information in liberal democracies which are

Re: The Maker Movement is abandoned by its corporate sponsors; throws in the towel

2019-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
(Dear nettimers, this is my last message in this present batch, I promise!) Someone from MIT shared with me the following, which I quote verbatim. It specificallly identifies the poor leadership of Dale Dougherty as an explanation for the trouble with Make. I have no idea what the board of Make

Re: Unlike Us links on social media and their alternatives

2019-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
This is a bit of a tangent, but you mention the ability of infrastructure operators to eavesdrop or interfere with communication. I know that you are not explicitly saying this below, but to be clear I worry that culturally, we may have somehow come to think that this situation is acceptable, perh

Re: Unlike Us links on social media and their alternatives

2019-06-16 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
Dear Morlock, I think your threat model is wrong. At issue here is the question of whether infrastructures allow unscrupulous adversaries to manipulate the behaviour of multitudes of persons, cheaply and at scale, which although related should not be confused with the question of whether it might

The Uses and Abuses of Citizens’ Assemblies

2019-06-16 Thread David Garcia
The Uses and Abuses of Citizens’ Assemblies Of all the Conservative Party candidates competing in the parade of lying nincompoops to be the UK's next Prime Minister Rory Stewart is the exception in that he actually tries to answer questions and is the most honest about the obstacles ahead. How

Re: Unlike Us links on social media and their alternatives

2019-06-16 Thread John Young
Thought it was a given that communications are never secure against their inventors and operators. The Internet never inaccessible to to its operators, coders, mechanics, its start and end packets never wholly invisible, log files essential for repair and admin. Tor never intended to be beyo