On 13 Mar 2021, at 19:07, Felix Stalder wrote:
> On 13.03.21 15:14, tbyfield wrote:
>
>> If I drew a venn diagram of how uninteresting mass digital art, the
>> art-systems economics, and cryptographic para-currencies have become,
>> you'd think it was just a circle
>
> Ted, you, of all people,
I heard y'all like #NFTs
This one comes with a story of p2p gone wrong
https://v.cent.co/tweet/1371180841162932230?s=u_a
On 2021-03-14 19:55, Rachel O' Dwyer wrote:
wow. that story reminds me of the auction of Damian Hirst's For the
Love of God in 2007 (the diamond skull).
it sold for
I agree with Rachel. Wow.
Gaming the system is a feature, not a bug, of the financial markets. After
you analyze it for a while (as I did for about a decade) you just get too
disgusted to go on. New technologies/same principles. I didn't know that
Hirst and Jopling were behind the diamond skull
wow. that story reminds me of the auction of Damian Hirst's For the Love of
God in 2007 (the diamond skull).
it sold for something staggering like $100 million to a private collector,
but the collector was later revealed to be an investment
consortium consisting of Hirst, his dealer Jay Joplin and
On 14.03.21 14:25, Rachel O' Dwyer wrote:
> The article includes a discussion of economic *'signalling' *that was
> prompted by conversations with Ruth Catlow which chimes with Felix's
> questions about what the digital art purchase 'says'.
Doma alerted me to this analysis, and if it's
Thanks Marc,
The article includes a discussion of economic *'signalling' *that was
prompted by conversations with Ruth Catlow which chimes with Felix's
questions about what the digital art purchase 'says'
For example, a buyer might purchase a work as an asset in the hope that its
market value
nettime link list on money and crypto art (recent ones on top)
compiled by geert lovink for moneylab
The Downward Spiral: Popular Things by Dean Kissick (via Josephine Bosma)
https://www.spikeartmagazine.com/articles/downward-spiral-popular-things-dean-kissick
Hi Felix & all,
I watched this documentary during the week, if you can get a chance to
watch it I think you'll find it relevant and rewarding, in respect of the
context of what society is dealing with; not in respect of incels and
fascism, but also those crypto millionaires and they're ignorant
Hi Rachel,
It's good to read this article again. It feels grounded these days compared
to how things have blown lately.
I think this paragraph of yours resonates even more at the moment.
"This shift from commodity to financial instrument also implies a different
economic relationship to the
Dear nettimers,
I am happy Felix raised the issue here. As you all know we’ve been dealing with
these issues, here at the Institute of Network Cultures, since 2013 when we
started the MoneyLab network (www.networkcultures.org/moneylab). We’ve been
dealing with the rise of crypto art from day
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