Re: Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2019-02-26 Thread carlo von lynX
Late reply, but somebody brought it up only now... On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 08:37:46AM +0100, Geert Lovink wrote: > Only an internal group of elite members was involved in the decision-making > process (using the platform called Rousseau). Incorrect. “Rousseau” is like internal.diem25.org — a

Re: Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2018-12-05 Thread David Garcia
Hi Geert and Donatella as usual there is plenty to provoke, agree and disagree with. But whatever the detail this is particularly timely intervention as it feels like one of those moments when the light appears to have changed and a once familiar lanscape suddenly looks very different. For

Re: Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2018-12-04 Thread Morlock Elloi
Exactly. Two excerpts from the paper I wrote on the topic: "" One aspect of this ideology is centralization. Centralization of traffic, directories, data bases, personal information, you name it. That center is somewhere where you are not. People interfacing machines built under this

Re: Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2018-12-04 Thread Emery Hemingway
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:37:46 AM CET, Geert Lovink wrote: ... what can we still expect from the geek class? Why are social media alternatives never on the agenda of the big hackers' meeting? Why are they solely focused on surveillance and privacy issues that are the quintessential

Re: Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2018-12-04 Thread newmedia
Geert (old friend): How could this possibly succeed? Yes, there *is* something rotten in Denmark (and elsewhere) . . . !! Trying to use technology to "construct" the world as you'd like it to be is always confronted by the reality that technology is, instead, busy "constructing" you.

Bridging the Gap between Technology and Progressive Politics in Europe

2018-12-03 Thread Geert Lovink
Dear Nettimers, we’ve written the discussion text below as a proposal, a strategic contribution and are curious what you make of the ideas and questions we raise. For sure that there more topics and angles that could be added. Do you see any possibility for funding such an effort to come