Fwd: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-21 Thread Luke Munn
(and the reply to florian. these might be too belated to pick discussion up now but posting for posterity ;-) Thanks for the Q Florian. Yes agreed that 8chan is "the least algorithmically regulated social medium", but I see 8chan as the 'end of the line' in terms of an extreme right position, one

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-20 Thread David Garcia
Thanks Francis and Brian et al When Francis points out that [….]This kind of description ascribes a lot of power/agency to the technical medium and does in my opinion not fully grasp the agency of individuals who have to actively seek this content (they have to go online, subscribe to certain stre

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Francis Hunger
> Thoughts? I would love to hear more comments on this issue from a broader range of people on this list (not exclusively from the usual suspects). Francis -- http://databasecultures.irmielin.org # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for ne

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Morlock Elloi
Accelerated and (unconditionally) broadcast communications affect humans at many levels, not just the surface cognition. One (imperfect) model of the networked society: We are all in the same (not Olympic-size, but half) swimming pool. As we pee, shit, fart, ejaculate and ooze various stuff, i

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Brian Holmes
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:28 AM Francis Hunger wrote: > So I wonder, why does the discussion want to look into the > "sociotechnical properties of that environment" instead of looking into > the political dimension which forms and enables humans who wish to kill > other humans. > This is spot

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Florian Cramer
> > although I agree with a large part of Lukes analyse let me put in > question the point of machinic agency. All the more since 8chan, where the Christchurch killer was at culturally and literally at home and posted his announcement, is (along with the other chans) the least algorithmically re

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Francis Hunger
Dear Geert and Luke, although I agree with  a large part of Lukes analyse let me put in question the point of machinic agency. Luke writes: "Calibrated correctly, platforms grasp the social, cultural or ideological connections between content, presenting a sequence of ideas that seem natural, eve

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Nick
Quoth Geert Lovink: > we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton > Tarrant and the Dark Social Web, an analysis on the role of social media in > the Christchurch killings, by Luke Munn, writing from Auckland/NZ: > >

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Ico Maly
Thank you! My thoughts can be read here: https://www.diggitmagazine.com/column/white-terrorism-white-genocide-and-metapolitics20 Op di 19 mrt. 2019 om 11:01 schreef Geert Lovink : > Dear nettimers, > > we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton > Tarrant and the Dark

Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Geert Lovink
Dear nettimers, we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton Tarrant and the Dark Social Web, an analysis on the role of social media in the Christchurch killings, by Luke Munn, writing from Auckland/NZ: http://networkcultures.org/blog/2019/03/19/luke-munn-al