Re: England leaves Europe

What do you think of the idea of separatism as being a casino tactic for creating a set of financial, social and labor crises that set up conditions for the global plutocracy to systematically game out capital from the state to the uber-rich until the world is turned into an utterly balkanized

Re: England leaves Europe

I just want to make one minor point about this discussion. England does not "leave Europe". The EU is not "Europe". It's a political and bureaucratic structure that we can be happy or unhappy about, and many large and well-functioning European countries are not part of the EU. #

Re: England leaves Europe

Hiya, > It is remarkable then, how the Guardian newspaper (admittedly by and > large > a mouth piece of Labour, a kind of British version of the good > old Pravda) is still discussing the 'future of left politics' The Guardian is not and never has been a 'mouth piece' of the Labour party! This

Re: England leaves Europe

This is what Slavoj Zizek has to say about Brexit, posted on the DiEM25 website (https://diem25.org/disorder-under-the-heaven/): Disorder under the heaven Late in his life, Freud asked the famous question “Was will das Weib?”, “What does a woman want?”, admitting his perplexity when faced

Re: England leaves Europe

i just wanted to add a rejoinder on the skewed generational nature of the brexit vote - yes, the gerontocratic aspect is all too evident, even in yesterday's spanish elections (where we should pay and homage to catalonia and expect that pablo iglesias will ponder that it was a bad idea to the a

Re: England leaves Europe

as they used to say in harlem: WORD the European Continental Republic needs to happen fast and was greatly inspired by Ulrike Guérot's political call - http://www.euronomade.info/?p=6759) if we want to make it a viable project we should start federating existing paneuropean movements (blockupy,

Re: England leaves Europe

Dear Brian, all, Slowly recovering from the immediate shock of the turmoil across the Canal (writing from Mokum, Holland), the sense of bewilderment by the string of events unfolding is hard to put into words - nettime helps a bit to find, and come to, terms to begin dealing with the

Re: England leaves Europe

On 26/Jun/16 10:50, Brian Holmes wrote: The ruse of History exists, and with it, all possibilities for speculation. Britain as piloted by its ruling classes through all kinds of reversals and shifts has always been able to draw a new figure of imperial power from the accumulated reserve of past

Re: England leaves Europe

On 2016-06-25 22:38, Brian Holmes wrote: > What's really crucial - and maybe this is what you're getting at, > Michael - is how do younger people analyze this disastrous situation? Do > they fall back on the capitalist reflex embodied by Hillary Clinton that > says, push through the recession to

Re: England leaves Europe

On 06/26/2016 11:30 AM, Keith Hart wrote: > I live in Paris and have in-laws in Switzerland, so I pick up more than > average doses of anti-City rhetoric. A major factor is that I spent a > quarter century in Cambridge and have a good feel for the British secret > state and its active wings in

Re: England leaves Europe

Hi Brian, I can't offer proof, far from it. It is a story that I have been building up for decades. No doubt its source is a Manchester man's loathing of how London stole our industrial revolution and turned it into mercantile colonial empire, wrecking the British economy in the process. This

Re: England leaves Europe

On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:48:02PM +0100, Richard Barbrook wrote: >The City boys in the pub last night said that the banks are warning >their employees that their jobs will be relocated to Frankfurt or >Dublin if Brexit ever happens for real ...

Re: England leaves Europe

Hiya, > The Tory party has been in bed with the City for a century. Expect > Cameron to be rewarded lavishly for delivering the goods. Many in > the remain camp claim that Downing Street curbed their efforts during > the campaign, preventing them from attacking Gove and Johnson directly. > They

Re: England leaves Europe

On 06/25/2016 03:56 AM, Keith Hart wrote: For some time now Europe's political leaders and financial cities have threatened to abolish the City's immunity. That was the issue. The City wanted out, but didn't wish to make it obvious. See Nicholas Shaxson's Treausure Islands for the gruesome

Re: England leaves Europe

> On 25 Jun 2016, at 03:43, Michael H. Goldhaber wrote: > > But what about the fact that those under 50 voted to stay by sizable margins? this is a fundamental point. It really looks likes an intergenerational fracture, where aged people nostalgic of a past world order

Re: England leaves Europe

"It's about time, Brian" But time for what? The political agenda that counts in Britain now is decentralisation, the break up of the United Kingdom and of London's dominance, led by the Scots of course, but with the reunification of Ireland now a distinct possibility. There are

Re: England leaves Europe

But what about the fact that those under 50 voted to stay by sizable margins? Best, Michael via iPhone, so please ecuse misteaks. > On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Brian Holmes > wrote: > >> On 06/23/2016 11:42 PM, Alex Foti wrote: >> >> Either We Do Europe Now or

Re: England leaves Europe

On 06/23/2016 11:42 PM, Alex Foti wrote: Either We Do Europe Now or We're Dead - meaning the chauvinists and the xenophobes will bring us back to the European nation-state that defends itself against migrants and any threat to its supposed cultural identity, unless we fight for a European

Re: England leaves Europe

US deeper colonization of Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and lesser arms and bribeable chattels advances in accord with full spectrum ultra imperial resurgence. English-dominated communications and responsible cogitation now affirmed by digital-coded hegemon of Internet, cellphones,