Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-14 Thread Felix Stalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-09-13 07:27, patrice wrote: > So, are we back to square one? I am afraid it's much worse: endgame > for Greece, economically and politically speaking (is there > anything else?), and endgame for the European Union as we know it. > In this

Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-14 Thread Louise Desrenards
Dear Patrice, chers tous, Thank you for your report. But what a sadness... Just to remind that everywhere when the radical left line was missing in the realization of the left wing at power, when the elected power was only acted by social-democracy, instead of winning in a moderate solution, it

Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-13 Thread patrice
I am still in Greece (Athenes) where I was with Lorenzo at a very interesting and enjoyable INURA conference and retreat [1]. Yet, in the circles I am with, Yanis Varoufakis 'enjoys' more than mixed feelings: forceful rejection, which is due to the dramatic misfiring of his 'flamboyant'

Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-12 Thread Lorenzo Tripodi
Sorry, I wanted to reply but I???ve got distracted by the kid and somehow an empty mail was sent by my computer:-) Anyway : I am just back form Greece where I had the opportunity to meet many leftist people and also Syriza members living the incoming elections with an incumbent feeling of

Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-12 Thread Louise Desrenards
oh I forgot that Varoufakis has spoken about "bitcoin" (with a smile as eye blink) to evoke the virtual money in the plan B owhich members of Tspiras government have prevented him from achieving ;-) On 12 September 2015 at 20:33, Louise Desrenards

Re: Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-12 Thread Geert Lovink
Thanks, Alex. They have now annouced a conference in November. Via Der Spiegel I ended up here: "Many ideas are already on the table: the introduction of parallel payment systems, parallel currencies, digitization of euro transactions, community based exchange systems, the euro exit and

Fwd: the European manifesto of Varoufakis and Piketty

2015-09-11 Thread Alex Foti
Varoufakis has been talking about a European network for democracy and against debt servitude and inequality in Europe. He's joined by other left-leaning economists including the great Piketty, Galbraith, Dosi, and others whose work I don't know. Politically he's found support in