On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:20 PM Sean Cubitt
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‘The unthinkable has to be thought.’ Sean Cubitt
‘An eco-state’ Brian Holmes
The wretchedness of Covid has gifted one important good. It is easier to
*think the unthinkable* as the unthinkable has already happened. The
revelation I’m
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Fascinating discussion all (though i admit that i've not read every
post in this thread to the end (yet -- i do hope to get back and do
so, though frankly the truths being revealed make me think my mental
health may be more fragile than i previously
t line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Thoughts on coups (John Young)
2. Re: [EXT] Re: Thoughts on coups (Brian Holmes)
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:20 PM Sean Cubitt
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The unthinkable has to be thought.
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That's exactly it. I like this discussion. It's fascinating how the ideas
spring up like mushrooms. I especially like Oliver's call for all the
approaches that people might be experimenting with - aesthetic,
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:58:52 +0100
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Sean, Brian, others, thank you for the interesting and engaging
contributions. (Some of it gets a bit cryptic since it refers to
political discourses that are not immediately apparent, at least to this
reader, but that's generally OK for a most-of-the-time lurker.)
Sean Cubitt wrote (Nov 24,
Hi Brian, Sean,
> On 25 Nov 2020, at 01:19, Sean Cubitt wrote:
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> Eco-socialism yes - but only if the 'social' is rethought - and re-practiced
> - no longer exclusively as human: The Commons is a better phrase, common
> land, general intellect (including those forms it takes when congealed
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:58:52 +0100
From: Felix Stalder
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on coups
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On 24.11.20 04:14, Brian Holmes wrote:
> Here's my two cents: Keynes aimed to save capitalism from itself. Double
> down on Keynes, unleash vast new creative energies on the basis of fiat
> money, and maybe, instead of sapping capital's foundations, we can push it
> over the top into
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:23 PM Max Herman wrote:
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> What if socialism has also won the Cold War, i.e. a system has prevailed
> in which periodic bubbles are cushioned by ever-replenishing state
> bailouts?
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Toni Negri had this idea quite a while ago, in a text that more or less
launched
Hi all,
Can we say that coups have now become quantum, both happening and not happening
at the same time in a cloud of probability?
Classical Marxism, if I am correct, predicted that capitalism would inevitably
collapse and disappear to be replaced by a system in which the workers control
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