Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness)

2019-10-09 Thread Morlock Elloi
The centralized censorship illustrates the heavy investment in this thing. Search for "#gretaisyourgod": - 1 result on TWTR. - 23 results on GOOG - 7 results on duckduckgo - 0 on MSFT (it's unconditionally converted to "great is your god") # distributed via : no commercial use without

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-02 Thread bronac ferran
Thank you 'Morlock' I had no idea you were so young and so witty B On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 02:45, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Towards "extremely careful social discourse": > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN7r0Rr1Qyc > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > #is a

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-02 Thread bronac ferran
Many thanks for clarifying Molly. All best wishes B On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 02:15, Molly Hankwitz wrote: > Bronac > > Admittedly, my argument as you call it was not perfectly worked out before > writing. I admit it was joyful and excited—somewhat emotional and perhaps > too spontaneous for a

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-02 Thread Carsten Agger
On 10/2/19 10:25 AM, mp wrote: > > Volume I: > > In ACT I, I disclose that Greta Thunberg, the current child prodigy and > face of the youth movement to combat climate change, serves as special > youth advisor and trustee to the burgeoning mainstream tech start-up, We > Don’t Have Time. I then

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-02 Thread mp
On 02/10/2019 03:13, Molly Hankwitz wrote: > It seems I really messed up regarding GTs effects upon the US in her visit > here. I think she’s great. Obviously, she is impactful and plays a role in > discussions elsewhere. > > Clearly living in a miasma of spectacle. Here's a deep

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-01 Thread Morlock Elloi
Towards "extremely careful social discourse": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN7r0Rr1Qyc # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info:

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-01 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Bronac Admittedly, my argument as you call it was not perfectly worked out before writing. I admit it was joyful and excited—somewhat emotional and perhaps too spontaneous for a nettime audience accustomed to extremely careful social discourse. Obviously, many, including myself, admire all of

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-10-01 Thread bronac ferran
I was troubled reading your last few comments Molly in this post below. It seemed you were either adopting what Suzanne Moore has called out as a patriarchal critique: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/01/greta-thunbergs-defiance-upsets-the-patriarchy-and-its-wonderful or trying

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
Hi lizvlx Responding to your third paragraph ('less intellectualizing and more personal action') The sad truth is that most reasonable adults (with a few exceptions, such as the comfortable, the contented, and the activists) would not opt to sacrifice the privileges you describe. This is for

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-27 Thread lizvlx
Hi I hardly ever post - but I need to say that I find it a bit weird to call Greta Thurnberg a work of art - she is a regular human being and just doing what she needs to do. Neither do I see any similarity between Assange and her. Also I dont see why Greta is doing anything directly to the US

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-27 Thread Freddy Spierenburg
Hi Felix, On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 07:52:39PM +0200, Felix Stalder wrote: > I can assure you that there is a lot of hate towards GT in Europe as > well, so this cannot be a problem attributable to the "American brain". Could it be you're judging "my" url by its name? This could indeed lead you to

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-26 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Dear Ted and Felix, Thank you these links. I have been following Ms. Thunberg with a mix of rapt interest, admiration, and fabulous disbelief at her courage for some time. I have picked up, now, on some of the bile that Monica Hesse bites into which is being directed at Greta by such patrons of

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-26 Thread Felix Stalder
Hi Freddy, I can assure you that there is a lot of hate towards GT in Europe as well, so this cannot be a problem attributable to the "American brain". I think it's an issue of how to deal with the climate crisis. I see basically three different approaches. The center left and center right

Re: Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-26 Thread Freddy Spierenburg
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:48:02AM -0400, tbyfield wrote: > Anyone who listens to all of that and immediately wants to > punish or attack Thunberg -- they're not having that reaction > because they think she's wrong, but rather because, deep down, > they fear she is right. Does the author truly

Wash Post: Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness

2019-09-26 Thread tbyfield
[a little collaborative text-filtering] < https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/greta-thunberg-weaponized-shame-in-an-era-of-shamelessness/2019/09/25/66e3ec78-deea-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html> Greta Thunberg weaponized shame in an era of shamelessness By Monica Hesse Columnist