Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-05 Thread Alex Foti
Dear Keith, Dear Brian and All i was part of the 80s antinuclear/ peace movement (my first political experience) - we even thought it was us that brought the wall down. in retrospect it achieved little (ok nuclear energy was phased out after chernobyl), since reagan's missiles bankrupted the

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-04 Thread Keith Hart
Hi Felix, Thanks for making a response to my overlong post. Environmentalism is a form of what Durkheim called "natural religion" for which Australian totemism is the archetype and about as intellectually credible (the aborigines worship society in the symbolic form of animals in particular

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-04 Thread Felix Stalder
On 2017-06-03 22:08, Keith Hart wrote: > Brian, that the US is all washed up again, with Germany and China > the likely replacement and Felix's notion that the last six months > have been decisive in some way. Dear Keith, thank you for your structural long-term view. Very sobering. What

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-03 Thread Keith Hart
Hi Brian, There were two threads on this topic and I meant my comment to speak to both of them. The main one launched by Alex and added to lately by you and Felix was basically about geopolitics seen in the context of recent developments. Morlock and Patrice brought up the narrower issue of

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-03 Thread André Rebentisch
(I do not share a derogatory notion of occupation per se.) The diplomats who supported what you call occupation had their strings cut. The Chancellor power game is that audiences may read into statements whatever they like to, or what suits their views. Policy is incoherent but afterwards it will

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-03 Thread Brian Holmes
On 06/02/2017 03:39 AM, Keith Hart wrote: It is foolish to bracket the US and Russia together, even rhetorically, just because right now they share autocratic leaders of unequal weight. The American empire, for all its recent political mismanagement, is alive and strong: with its share of the

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-02 Thread Felix Stalder
On 2017-06-01 19:13, Morlock Elloi wrote: > The evolution of the attitude towards nuclear war from terrible > (1946+) through unthinkable (1970s) into impossible (2000+) is a > testament to the power of Kool Aid. While the planet was continuously > and uninterruptedly ruled based on the military

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-06-02 Thread Morlock Elloi
The evolution of the attitude towards nuclear war from terrible (1946+) through unthinkable (1970s) into impossible (2000+) is a testament to the power of Kool Aid. While the planet was continuously and uninterruptedly ruled based on the military power balances alone, the public discourse

Re: merkel, macron: europe on its own

2017-05-31 Thread Morlock Elloi
One has to look at the foundations of the current European relationships, beyond theatrical posturing and politbabble: Germany: 0 nukes UK: 215 nukes (5 operational) France: 300 nukes USA:6800 nukes Russia: 7000 nukes Germany was and is effectively occupied after it lost the war,