The current state of the institutions in the US is that with legislative bodies
in bitter deadlock, the executive branch, ie, the President, effectively rules
by fiat (“executive orders”). The bad news is that there is too much
decision-making power in the hands of the Senate, where a narrow
HI Ted, all,
Fascinating discussion in ominous times..
> On 16 Nov 2020, at 04:02, tbyfield wrote:
>
> The US is breaking down, so it's not at all surprising that some of its
> language for describing the world would as well.
From a continental European perspective I’m watching this
It’s hard to think of any actual, successful military coups or anything
similar except in Africa anytime recently. Certainly not in any country
remotely as “advanced” and complex as the US. However, The Republican party has
certainly been high methodical and quite successful in setting the
"Words have meanings" is one of those sayings that needs to go away. It
sounds so sure, so blunt, but it obscures so very much. Yes, words have
meanings: they have lots of meanings, many of them ambiguous or
contrary, and those meanings change to keep pace with historical
circumstances.
This
Dear Steven,
I would disagree! If Trump is capable of getting the military on his side
(which is unlikely) - and he has tried to some extent in post-election
installment of his loyalists in the Pentagon, firing of Sect of Defense,
etc. then this mentality/intention seems to me to be in line with
Interesting perspective Ted, but I can’t call the examples you cite a coup. The
use of political power to reorganize institutions to better solidify a person’s
or party’s advantage or even to gain a political monopoly is most of what
politics is. Machine politics or the attempt to build a
Interestingly, the best articles on this situation came from one researcher
of stalinism, Anne Applebaum in the Atlantic and one historian of the
holocaust, Timothy Snyder in the Boston Globe. While the first reminded us
that Trump's political career began with spreading the "birther myth" to
If there will be no coup, Steven, that's because there already was one.
But let me explain.
Debates about a "coup" in the US are useless, because they're bogged
down in endless anticipatory "post hoc ergo propter hoc" arguments
("after this therefore because of this," just before *this*
Thanks, Ryan! A deeper look. In addition to the vindictive and
obstructionist potentials of the Republican Party and Trump officials on a
constellation of issues - is the very critical issue of the vaccine and how
that will be handled! See this article in which Cuomo and the AG fire back
at
> From: Molly Hankwitz
> The Republican Party on the other hand has been galvanized by Trump's
> presidency and they are something to be afraid of, especially if they catch
> QAnon fever and get their way on the Supreme Court with cases involving
> women's rights. This is where Trump has done
It seems to me that the chance of a Trumpist coup is slim, as his support
among the forces that might assist him doesn't seem to be there. But I try
not to put myself in the position of thinking like those forces, so what do
I know.
But that possibility isn't the only reason to be frightened of
Felix et al
Not misreading the situation at all imho.
Trump hasn't a leg to stand on unless the newly-lined Pentagon gets behind
him. Very unlikely.
The worst thing that could continue to happen is increased national
vulnerability to hostile powers (maybe there aren't any?)
or total slowing down
It is the sergeants not the generals who are
mostly likely to take advantage of the
opportunity to overthrow the avaricious elites
including their own cosseted higher-ranked
medevially-costumed brass-studded commanders disguised by battle-dress.
Indebted students, facing the draft, show the
Hi Felix
Yeah, same same.
I cant write much more, I up too upset today with how shit is hitting
the fan here in Austria and having a kid in senior year (jeez I really
hope she won’t have to repeat this year)
I also think democrats are taking it too lightly again. OK, white Dems.
I am not
>From my perspective there is very little to worry about regarding the
>election. There will be no coup, and the electoral college vote will not be
>stolen. All the generals who can speak out (because they are retired) have
>done so, and do not support Trump, nor do they see him as the election
> I wd speculate that except for the politically appointed heads
Generally, heads appointed by Trump roll sooner rather than later.
One wonders how much genuine loyalty Republican politicians will show towards
him, knowing that Trump’s capacity to bully and threaten them no longer depends
on
This is not to oversimplify, but to offer an interesting take on the
understated affect and actions of president-elect Biden. How does one approach
a hostage negotiation when the hostage is an entire population?
Quoting...
Former top FBI official says Trump is acting like what FBI terms a
Trump has given the military in the US more than adequate reasons to not go
along with an attempted coup by their “Commander in Chief.” This, however,
brings up the troubling prospect of their becoming a player in domestic
politics. They have in the past played a role via the various state run
Honestly, the short answer is no.
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On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:41 AM John Young wrote:
> Comforting to think of a civilian political solution to Mr. Trump's
> autocracy agenda. Insufficient critique of how autocratically political
Comforting to think of a civilian political
solution to Mr. Trump's autocracy agenda.
Insufficient critique of how autocratically
political are all military and law enforcement,
internationally and domestically, ranked,
uniformed, armed, civilian collateral harm bemedaled.
At 10:27 AM
Hi Nettime,
Here in the US along with millions of others I have been consumed by the
election drama for the past ten days. Every day beginning with November 3
has been its own news cycle. That Tuesday went deep into the night. And it
was a dark moment. Early returns made for the appearance of a
Hello everyone -
Dan is basically right about everything, especially the anxiety and horror
this election produced and the devastating realization that you live in a
country where almost fifty percent of the population is willing to support
an openly white supremacist and fascist political
Gradual sacralization and royalization of the US "presidency"
institution and designation of the president as Commander in Chief of
the military, poses the greated threat to US "democracy."
Currrently with the syzygy of Republican control of the three
branches has suspended the checks and
Hi David,
I suppose you mean 'well-founded.' To be honest, I am surprised that it
took so long before this story made it to the headlines. It was clear
from the very start (from way before the elections actually took place)
that this was going to happen.
Please read this as well:
On 13/11/2020 10:07, Eric Kluitenberg wrote:
> Hi Felix, all,
>
> The post-election situation in the US is very worrying in many respects.
>
> The darkest scenario, a slow coup d’etat against a clear election result has
> been suggested to me by several friends over the past few days.
Barton
This recent piece in the New Yorker (below) shows that Felix's anxieties
are well unfounded. And ably facilitated by the rise and rise of Don
Junior the once despised prodigal son who has morphed into the
formidable and terrifying heir apparent's fascistic rants about 'total
war', aided and
Hi Felix, all,
The post-election situation in the US is very worrying in many respects.
The darkest scenario, a slow coup d’etat against a clear election result has
been suggested to me by several friends over the past few days.
I can’t read the local situation that well, so it would be great
Hi everyone,
I must admit, amidst post-terror assault on civil liberties and covid
cases spiraling out of control here in Austria, the US election drama
has moved a bit lower in my attention, but not that much.
>From what I understand, the numbers show that Trump lost. Period. No
recount will
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