Re: nettime Anonymous movement in decline?

2014-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/01/14 01:23 PM, Felix Stalder wrote: But this rise and decline meme is a typical media cycle. This. But, even if nobody would ever use the name Anonymous anymore, and all the Guy Fawkes masks would rot in drawers around the world, what would that mean? Decline? Of what exactly? Of an

Re: nettime Anonymous movement in decline?

2014-01-06 Thread Felix Stalder
I've been reading a lot of Zygmunt Bauman lately, and he points out that there are two control regimes operating at the same time. One is about keeping people out, and the other is about keeping those who are in in line. One relies on old-fashioned repression through border guards, police,

Re: nettime Anonymous movement in decline?

2014-01-06 Thread Felix Stalder
I don't think that this FAZ article makes much sense. First, as David Garcia pointed out, anonymous never acted as, or claimed to be, a counter public. It has always been, to varying degrees and by different people, about direct action and media jamming. It has never a movement in a classic sense.