Re: nettime Post-digital - Mindful Disconnection: Counterpowering the Panopticon from the Inside (with Howard Rheingold)

2014-03-11 Thread Frederic Janssens
I mainly agree. The realistic take has always been and should always be: Whatever technology and/or social process that can be used to strengthen the interests of strategic power, will be used to strengthen the interests of strategic power. Is a very apt description of what is the main

Re: nettime Post-digital

2014-03-11 Thread d.garcia
Felix Wrote Where the terms makes no sense, in my view (and also in Florian's), is sociologically. The most powerful forces that transform globalized societies, are all dependent on, and amplified by, digital technologies. If anything, we are in the middle of the historical run of this

Re: nettime Post-digital

2014-03-11 Thread John Hopkins
Rousseau comes fleetingly to mind: The problem is to find a form of association which will defend and protect with the whole common force the person and goods of each associate, and in which each, while uniting himself with all, may still obey himself alone, and remain as free as before. And a

Re: nettime Post-digital

2014-03-11 Thread Griffis, Ryan
This discussion, especially related to questions of mindful disconnection, recalls Sigfried Giedion's 1948 anonymous history, Mechanization Takes Command. http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=acls;idno=heb01139 As he put it: Never has mankind possessed so many instruments for

Re: nettime Post-digital- Cyberclasm of the 1960s

2014-03-11 Thread d.garcia
Browsing through the files of Amsterdam?s Institute for Social History (as you do) I found Tjebbe van Tijan?s excellent essay written in 1998. Below is a short taster. Full essay to be found: http://socialhistory.org/sites/default/files/docs/digitial-ways-forgetting.pdf Digital ways of

Re: nettime Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread Sandra Braman
...@kein.org Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:58:27 PM Subject: Re: nettime Post-digital Quoth Felix Stalder: Enzensberger's text was just a joke, and the FAZ printed it because it would stir controversy, not because it had much to offer intellectually. Was it really just a joke? I'm not so sure

Re: nettime Post-digital

2014-03-10 Thread kontakt | florian kuhlmann
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:51 schrieb mp: and this is not a joke either: communal/collective spaces for communication can be really good. A place to meet. A digital square. i have to admit i less and less believe in this. the only thing i am strongly recognizing is, that friends, people and socitey