Re: nettime nottime: the end of nettime
Dear Ted and Felix, Well, I started reading from the most recent and *shocked* replies, and then, I went back to find this long email. Crazy, but, I was just thinking, something I do occasionally - :') (about two days ago) about the fact that nettime STILL has the old, grey email interface and the form of a listwhen Mark Zuckerberg and his cohorts have dazzled 9 billion people - like burgers - to add content - because its more exciting, hogs up more bandwidth, acts like Reality TV and spreads ad sprawl globally... and I thought, 'hmmm, its kind of a good thing, kind of a relief, kind of wonderful that nettime is still nettime and there are few content-delivery expectations, and there are some half way interesting arguments, texts, writings, reviews... This is such a cop out not a confession of radical/unradical ...well, thanks for keeping the list alive but please, don't tell us, after running a low tech internet list for almost 20 years, that the reason you are folding is because the Internet is post and there are not enough pictures on nettime...I thought low-tech, high-concept was the idea...n5m3...you know? Not multimedia to use a 90s term. I thought this was what made nettime cool, not measuring it against snailmail...I thought SLOW MEDIA was good media...and wouldn't some younger people, if you two have gotten tired, to take over some of the list work? I'm sad that there's no merit in the good old list format...as seen by so-called critics of technology... what happens to looking to nettime for something crisp to be said about technology? Huh? I'm confused Molly Hankwitz molly hankwitz # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime nottime: the end of nettime
A reassuring side effect of announcing the death of someone or something whether it be an April fool prank or not is that people you don't know turn up for the funeral with eulogies and elegies. As an art student nettime was my first real encounter with an active critical net culture I preferred to listen and learn and have never actively contributed but please do not mistake silence for absence, clearly there are many of us here who value nettime. It has for me always been a source for provocation and inspiration. It's great to see so many nettimers here. Thank you all. I hope we will continue to celebrate the spirit of nettime together for some time to come. Kevin  On 6 April 2015 at 22:28, Kruno Jost [1]udruga...@gmail.com wrote: People who just (or mostly) read on-line do not deserve the creepy designater - lurker. Thank you David for this observation, this is my first post after reading (lurking) for some years and doing it passionately. Nettime list is research and study material, much more alive than any blog or social media. It is a living portal. And am glad to see so many people I know here, and so many people I will get to know in the future. ... -- For P2P Foundation related messages please contact me at [6]ke...@p2pfoundation.net [7]http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/ [8]https://twitter.com/flgnk Skype: kev.flanagan Phone: +353 87 743 5660 References 1. mailto:udruga...@gmail.com 2. http://www.uke.hr/ 3. http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l 4. http://www.nettime.org/ 5. mailto:nett...@kein.org 6. mailto:ke...@p2pfoundation.net 7. http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/ 8. https://twitter.com/flgnk # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime Krisis new issue online *Pirates and Privateers* (2015-1)
The new issue of Krisis, Journal for Contemporary Philosophy, revolves around two figures, that of the pirate and the privateer. It explores their relevance to a critical understanding of the gobalized present. Defying any simple opposition, the relationship between them is simultaneously one of extreme proximity, in terms of practice, and great distance, in terms of their relation to sovereignty and the law. This results in an ambiguity that matches the economic networks in which they operate, then and now. For the pirate and privateer make their reappearance in the cracks opened up by nation states permanently recuperating from the centrifugal and deterritorializing forces of capital. From media pirates turned hacktivists to neo-privateers mooring their vessels in tax havens and SEZs, each contribution engages these figures from a different perspective. Sonja Schillings from that of Agamben's theory of sovereignty, Oscar Coppieters from that of Corporate Social Responsibility, Ned Rossiter and Soenke Zehle from that of anonymity and parametric politics, and Francesca Da Rimini and Jonathan Marshall from that of anarchist theories of (dis)order. Also included in this issue are book reviews by Maxigas (Gabriella Coleman, 2014: Hacker, Hoaxer, Whistleblower, Spy: The Many Faces of Anonymous), Liesbeth Schoonheim (Martin Frederiksson and James Arvanitakis eds., 2014: Piracy: Leakages from Modernity) and Jonathan Gray (David M. Berry, 2014: Critical Theory and the Digital, and Christian Fuchs, 2014: Social Media: A Critical Introduction). www.krisis.eu # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime point of information (before the end)
Hello, Sorry, but I came late to the Nettime party, I think my colleague Janos probably had something to do with this, and was wondering whether there are any founding documents that still exist? For me it would be useful to see what people were thinking back then when Nettime was launched and went live. Thanks to Felix and Ted and whoever else has the archives… best allan # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime nottime: the end of nettime
Sincere thanks to Ted and Felix for keeping the often intriguing nettime exchange alive for all these years. I joined in the late nineties, and while seldom posting kept up with the discussions faithfully. nina czegledy # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
