FWD: re: switching to teaching online

2020-03-18 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
Rebecca Barrett-Fox offers thoughtful advice for lecturers and professors considering to move their teaching online: Please do a bad job of putting your courses online I’m absolutely serious. For my colleagues who are now being instructed to put some or all of the remainder of their semester

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread Dr. Peter Troxler (p)
This is an interesting discussion … I’d like to provide a link to a comment comparing the situation in Italy and South Korea which alludes to the possibility that in fact meticulous tracking of infected individuals from the very start of the outbreak *is* an effective way to contain the

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:20:02AM +0100, Felix Stalder wrote: > Is it likely that we manage to enact these? No. But simply calling for > the protection of personal privacy, or accepting the general state of > emergency, will be even worse. ???If the ends don't justify the means, what does

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread Patrice Riemens
On 2020-03-18 10:38, mp wrote: > On 18/03/2020 09:20, Felix Stalder wrote: > >> Is it likely that we manage to enact these? No. But simply calling >> for the protection of personal privacy, or accepting the general >> state of emergency, will be even worse. > > Perhaps attempt to (re)generate

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public

2020-03-18 Thread John Young
As now known from Crypto AG revelations spy agencies track comprehensively but do not disclose that information, no matter the horrors observed, to protect means and methods of deception. That callous mercilessness is not new, the same concealment from the public has been an ancient

FWD: re: switching to teaching online

2020-03-18 Thread Gívan Belá
Probably the more conservative the ideas of learning and teaching are, The more negative the reactions are to media and network based environments Maybe file these posts under technophobic or so, I believe in communication In many different ways and saying that ‘online teaching does not

Re: FWD: re: switching to teaching online

2020-03-18 Thread Heidrun Allert
Dear Andreas, I loved your post. And would like to add to that: I am irritated when policy makers in this situation say things like: "now we see drawbacks for not having digitized schools/universites in time". I am irritated as there are at least two misunderstandings: (1) There is _one_

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread Jean-Noël Montagné
Individual health and public health are deeply monitored by Google, Facebook and other big-brother companies since decennies, with thousand algorithms spying our life in real time. They store huge files about our intimate life, not only with what we say/search online about the subject, with

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health efforts?

2020-03-18 Thread William Waites
Felix Stalder writes: > So, is there a possibility to use this data without it turning > it into an authoritarian power grab? I think there is, under the > following guidelines: > > - Data needs to be deleted after immediate purpose of the analysis > has been achieved. The thing is these data

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health efforts?

2020-03-18 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
Dear Felix, I wonder if *focusing* on "mobile phone data to monitor public health efforts" is not the best way to prepare, structure, what you call in your email "the general state of emergency" - to technologically enable it to last! Yes, "simply calling for the protection of personal privacy"

Re: FWD: re: switching to teaching online

2020-03-18 Thread Hoofd, I.M. (Ingrid)
Dear Andreas and all, That's a bunch of bollocks. Universities ARE exploiting us through our sense of care and duty for our students, whether we teach online or not. Education IS meaningful in the face of what humanity faces, just as is helping the kids next door with the groceries for

Re: Should mobile phone data be used to monitor public

2020-03-18 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
folks, maybe a stupid question, but do we know which data exactly are being handed over to authorities here? are they, for instance, GPS data collected by and harvested from the devices, or login data from transmission units? and another point: what is actually being tracked here is of course

Re: FWD: re: switching to teaching online

2020-03-18 Thread John Hopkins
On 18/Mar/20 06:56, Hoofd, I.M. (Ingrid) wrote: Teachers online doing their care work for their students everywhere in the world now: respect. Totally concur, Ingrid, as a learning facilitator, yes, I understand the alienation connected with highly-mediated human connection very well. But

Re: Should mobile phone data be used to monitor public

2020-03-18 Thread Frédéric Neyrat
."the future security measures that people are not allowed to be without a mobile phone, especially when they move around in public"... see McLuhan about the law of reversal: “during the stages of their development all things appear under forms opposite to those that they finally present.”

Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health efforts?

2020-03-18 Thread Felix Stalder
Here in Austria, and in many other places as well, restrictions on personal mobility are quite severe. At the moment, we are told to stay at home, with exceptions only for a) going to work (where remote work is not possible), b) shopping for necessities (food, medicines, cigarettes, mobile

Re: coronavirus questions

2020-03-18 Thread John Hopkins
On 16/Mar/20 08:25, Carsten Agger wrote: biological and social levels: the damage to the body is mostly due to the overreaction of the immune system, and the damage to the economy This body-response that you speak of was true for the SARS event -- that's why mortality rates for younger

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread mp
On 18/03/2020 09:20, Felix Stalder wrote: > Is it likely that we manage to enact these? No. But simply calling for > the protection of personal privacy, or accepting the general state of > emergency, will be even worse. Perhaps attempt to (re)generate trust, collective intelligence and

Re: Should use mobile phone data to monitor public health efforts?

2020-03-18 Thread Laura Chimera
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 10:25, Felix Stalder wrote: > A1, the largest mobile phone carrier, is providing data to public > authorities in an effort to monitor these restrictions (contact > tracing might come later). > What's your source on that? I'd love to read more about it ~ L #

Re: Should mobile phone data be used to monitor public health

2020-03-18 Thread Felix Stalder
On 18.03.20 11:01, Laura Chimera wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 10:25, Felix Stalder wrote: > >> A1, the largest mobile phone carrier, is providing data to public >> authorities in an effort to monitor these restrictions (contact >> tracing might come later). >> > > What's your source on