Re: nettime What do you think about .art?
On 08/03/12 16:13, miltosmane...@gmail.com wrote: I absolutely agree. .art is simply ridiculous, who wants to be called .art? Various of my bots, and several projects I have in mind to critique the prevalent informal institutional theory. :-) - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime What do you think about .art?
On the other hand it could be a good way to dicuss what is non.art etc. The internet is a game, H. Am 09.03.2012 21:52, schrieb Rob Myers: On 08/03/12 16:13, miltosmane...@gmail.com wrote: I absolutely agree. .art is simply ridiculous, who wants to be called .art? Various of my bots, and several projects I have in mind to critique the prevalent informal institutional theory. :-) - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime The $100bn Facebook question: Will capitalism survive
Allan: The TOTALITARIANISM of capitalism is simply that *everything* has a PRICE. Therefore, many people are naturally obsessed with *prices* and, often enough, those who tend to spend their lives focused on justice also fall into conversation about how Facebook can justify its own price (which of course it can't) -- which then becomes the question of whether such an obvious injustice will impinge on the survival of capitalism. As nearly everyone knows -- particularly in the technology and financial worlds where I have worked most of my life -- Facebook is NOT worth $100B and, accordingly, over time, its share price will decline to reflect this fact. What has also been weaving its way through the discussion is the notion that a) capitalism has already stopped :surviving and b) what actually happens on Facebook (i.e. the lack of any actual market economy despite the desperate drive to generate likes) -- which is *why* the IPO price is ridiculous (other than in the usual supply/demand for hot stock sense) -- might point to *why* capitalism isn't working anymore. So, the Facebook IPO situation is being used as an elaborate metaphor for all the other subjects that people actually want to talk about. Make sense? Mark Stahlman Brooklyn NY In a message dated 3/10/2012 9:49:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, al...@allansiegel.info writes: hello, well I've been trying to get at the core of this discussion which frankly I find bloated with excess verbiage and driven by a subtext that seems to fetishize Facebook as if this were one of the most pressing questions we are now facing. Really folks, one has to simply watch The Social Network and extrapolate from the personalities and economic milieu (Harvard Univ Facebook ground zero) at Facebook's inception into present social/political climate to see how value increases (and why); is the paradigm that different for Youtube, Yahoo, Google etc...? ... # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime What do you think about .art?
Also, I demand a .marx domain. - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime What do you think about .art?
r...@robmyers.org (Sat 03/10/12 at 06:25 PM +): Also, I demand a .marx domain. The question's moot now because NTIA just announced that it was canceling the RFP for IANA: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunitymode=formtab=coreid=e90ec616702fd6c52c91c0e67ccbf501_cview=0 In plainspeak, that means the US government was unhappy enough with ICANN to deny it the power to enter new gTLDs into the root. This will undermine ICANN's legitimacy, maybe terminally. Once the IANA function is unbundled from ICANN, what's left? An expensive, contoversial, and incompetent pseudo- regulatory Californian legal entity masquerading as wannabe multilateral organization. For dyed-in-the-wool ICANN haters such as myself, this is good news. ICANN was, as they say, an epic fail. However, I think this is also very bad news because it comes at a time when many ostensibly 'liberal' states have made it clear they think it's time to rein in the net. I wouldn't say that ICANN was an effective agent in staving off those forces; but its existence was a token of a slightly more genteel balance. Those days are over. It'll be very interesting to see what fig leaf the USG adopts in its domination of DNS through IANA. Oh, and Andreas's analysis was superb. I don't know the specifics of the .berlin proposal, but the dynamics and issues are pretty generic. With all due respect to Desiree's suggestion, DNS is a hierarchical power structure. You can dress it up however you like, but *any* entity that took control of the gTLD .art would be forced, in effect, to propose a more or less explicit definition of art. I don't have any problem with that -- people do it all the time. The problem comes when you tie it to a structure that propagates that definition globally. Cheers, T # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
nettime Stimulating ‘PowerPoint’ presentation of Dominique Strauss Kahn at The Cambridge Union Society
Stimulating ‘PowerPoint’ presentation of Dominique Strauss Kahn at The Cambridge Union Society to see the documented news tableau published on March 10, 2012 by Tjebbe van Tijen check out the latest Limping Messenger: http://limpingmessenger.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/stimulating-powerpoint-presentation-of-dominique-strauss-kahn-at-the-cambridge-union-society/ or short link http://wp.me/pw0cu-1fe --- Tjebbe van Tijen Imaginary Museum Projects Dramatizing Historical Information http://imaginarymuseum.org web-blog: The Limping Messenger http://limpingmessenger.wordpress.com/ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime What do you think about .art?
While not disagreeing with Ted's overall pessimism as to the likely outcome of this particular development it is well to note that the announcement indicated that the decision was being made on behalf of the global internet community. Further, a key stated justification for the decision was NTIA's demand that the IANA contractor - ICANN - must document that all new gTLD delegations are in the global public interest. While as Ted suggests the NTIA (and the USG) are most certainly arrogating to themselves (and to the governments of Russia, China, uncle Tom Cobley and all) the right to define what is meant by and how to operationalize the global public interest in this sphere, as we have just seen through the backdown of the USG in the face of a truly massive (and unexpected onslaught) concerning SOPA/PIPA there are folks out there--who with their clout, numbers and smarts may be in a position to successfully take and define an alternative position. These are interesting times in Internet land. M -Original Message- From: nettime-l-boun...@mail.kein.org [mailto:nettime-l-boun...@mail.kein.org] On Behalf Of t byfield Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:48 PM To: nettim...@kein.org Subject: Re: nettime What do you think about .art? r...@robmyers.org (Sat 03/10/12 at 06:25 PM +): Also, I demand a .marx domain. The question's moot now because NTIA just announced that it was canceling the RFP for IANA: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunitymode=formtab=coreid=e90ec616702fd6 c52c91c0e67ccbf501_cview=0 In plainspeak, that means the US government was unhappy enough with ICANN to deny it the power to enter new gTLDs into the root. This will undermine ICANN's legitimacy, maybe terminally. Once the IANA function is unbundled from ICANN, what's left? An expensive, contoversial, and incompetent pseudo- regulatory Californian legal entity masquerading as wannabe multilateral organization. ... # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
