Re: What if a work of net.art sold for $34 million?

2013-05-15 Thread Florian Cramer
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Edward Shanken wrote: > What would the world be like if Roy Ascott's "La Plissure du Texte" (1983) > sold at auction for $34.2 million instead of Gerhard RIchter's ?Abstraktes > Bild?? In what sort of world (and artworld) would that be possible? This question is a

Re: the middle class doesn't exist

2013-05-15 Thread Patrick Lichty
What I find interesting is the realization of the Randian dream through the refocusing on skills rather than credentials - one of my students just quit school because of the crushing debt he was going to incur because of the turning away of the state from higher education, privatization of loans, l

Re: Jaron lanier: The Internet destroyed the middle class

2013-05-15 Thread Newmedia
Jon: > As i said it appears to me that people have been struggling > with this since the 90s and i see no sign of it stopping. Thanks! You are certainly correct that the various "professions" have circled their own wagons and not stepped up to the challenge of understanding the effects o

Re: Jaron lanier: The Internet destroyed the middle class

2013-05-15 Thread Jonathan Marshall
Mark writes: >But, before you roll up your sleeves, if you want to have any useful >ideas on the structure of labor (and leisure and consumption) then >you must begin with a CRASH effort to understand the impact of >*digital* technology on the economy. You could also begin with a crash course on

Re: the middle class doesn't exist

2013-05-15 Thread Brian Holmes
On 05/15/2013 08:56 AM, allan siegel wrote: The thesis of the death of the middle class is simple and not peculiar to Sweden: every time you try to define the allegedly most important contemporary social formation, this "middle class" breaks into two, writes Greider; one part that serves the ec

Black hat, white hat, green hat hackers

2013-05-15 Thread nettime's avid reader
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/saudi-surveillance/ Last week I [Moxie Marlinspike] was contacted by an agent of Mobily, one of two telecoms operating in Saudi Arabia, about a surveillance project that they’re working on in that country. Having published two reasonably popular MITM tools, i

the middle class doesn't exist

2013-05-15 Thread allan siegel
"Twenty years ago, class was not in the vocabulary of Swedish pundits and mavens. Class was something that belonged to the past. Today, however, it is back with a vengeance. Recently the Swedish Occupy movement "Allt åt alla" (Everything for Everyone) organized a bus "safari" through exclusive

Re: Jaron lanier: The Internet destroyed the middle class

2013-05-15 Thread Keith Sanborn
Ok, I'll bite: why does digital technology entail the disappearance of a middle class ? Why cyber serfs instead of a cyber middle class? Some of the answer IS political and started when Reagan broke the air traffic controllers's strike and fired every one of them. The negative effects in terms