Re: Ten Theses on the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread t byfield
On 7 Apr 2016, at 4:15, Florian Cramer wrote: Berger is by far not the only one with this opinion. After I posted his article here, WikiLeaks retweeted the link to Nettime's archive and Berger's piece. Before, Wikileaks tweeted the following (so we can consider it WikiLeaks' official position

Re: 'responsible' handling of the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread Michael Gurstein
Excellent, Ted. I think what the "responsible" journalists don't get is that this isn't about criminal wrong-doing (well some of it is). The problem at its base isn't about whether folks did or did not break the law but rather that the law itself is wrong (most certainly the result of

Re: 'responsible' handling of the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread John Young
So far Panama Papers have been infinitesimal, ldespite the humongous bloviation: 184 files, 651 pages, about .0015% of the unsubstantiated mad-dog frothing 11.5 Million. Papers hosts claim all froth will not be released, to not madden the public, not like an unspeakable gutter cur WL, but have

Re: Ten Theses on the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread John Young
To assure official and congenial approval and financial support for disclosure it is essential to choral "not like WikiLeaks" then scream big numbers and Titanic significance, yes dear passengers, the ship is unsinkable. Why even the Snowden Unsinkable Molly Brown distances itself from the

'responsible' handling of the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread t byfield
Here's a mail I just sent to a list devoted to discussion of 'responsible data.' Cheers, T - - - - - - - 8< SNIP! 8< - - - - - - - Hi, all -- I appreciate that a forum devoted to responsible data is what it says on the tin, but I want to question the reflexive assumption that

Re: salafi easter and finis europae: let's break the loop

2016-04-07 Thread David Garcia
Alex wrote: > if europe was over with the end of schengen, now it's deader than > dead. we're no longer europeans, but french, germans, italians, > spaniards (and catalunyans), belgians (whatever it means in a country > split along language lines with autonomous brussels being claimed > by

Re: Ten Theses on the Panama Papers

2016-04-07 Thread Florian Cramer
> On 5 Apr 2016, at 14:42, Florian Cramer forwarded: > >> Panama Papers - not the Scoop but the Flop of the Century > > Florian, I'm pretty confident that Jens Berger's eruption won't age > hold up very well, and I really wonder why you bothered to forward such > a load of bollocks. And to follow