Re: [SPAM] PTS post trump syndrome - the suicide of the west

2016-11-10 Thread David Garcia
Brian wrote > > One thing stands out to me: Bernie Sanders could have swept last > night's election. The establishment consensus of the hypocritical > oligarchies has to be cleared entirely away, in favor of a new > social-democratic populism with the governing capacities required to > transform

Trumps redux

2016-11-10 Thread allan siegel
Hello, (couldn’t hold myself back from this discussion) Trump represents and is the embodiment of the neo-fascist architype all too common in American culture: well defined in Sinclair Lewis' "In Can't Happen Here" or in Penn Warren's "All the King's Men" - the proverbial snake oil salesman

Re: Cybernetics and the Pioneers of Computer Art

2016-11-10 Thread Armin Medosch
Hi Thomas our discussion may seem redundant at times of depressing world political events. However, let me nevertheless explain a bit where I am coming from. You insinuate that I just wrote this posting to 'advertise' my book, not taking into consideration that I may have other motivations as

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-10 Thread Michael H Goldhaber
Let me add. Trump's electoral majority, like all Republican electoral majori= ties for years, depended on the southern states' white voters who have never= fully moved past their hatred of integration.=20 Best, Michael Sent from my iPad > On Nov 9, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Michael Goldhaber

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-10 Thread Brian Holmes
On 11/09/2016 05:48 PM, Michael Goldhaber wrote: In fact, Hillary won a plurality of the popular vote, with probably a larger margin than Gore in 2000, once the California tally becomes final in a few days (absentee ballots mailed on election day have three days to arrive and still be counted).

Re: What is the meaning of Trump's victory?

2016-11-10 Thread Michael Goldhaber
Brian and others, Now is a time for painful gnashing of teeth, moaning , and beating of chests in despair. All that I can agree with... It may feel fine to come up with the instant analysis you’ve been nurturing, most probably, for quite a while, but it starts off factually wrong. The