Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Francis Hunger
> Thoughts? I would love to hear more comments on this issue from a broader range of people on this list (not exclusively from the usual suspects). Francis -- http://databasecultures.irmielin.org # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Morlock Elloi
Accelerated and (unconditionally) broadcast communications affect humans at many levels, not just the surface cognition. One (imperfect) model of the networked society: We are all in the same (not Olympic-size, but half) swimming pool. As we pee, shit, fart, ejaculate and ooze various stuff,

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Brian Holmes
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:28 AM Francis Hunger wrote: > So I wonder, why does the discussion want to look into the > "sociotechnical properties of that environment" instead of looking into > the political dimension which forms and enables humans who wish to kill > other humans. > This is spot

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Florian Cramer
> > although I agree with a large part of Lukes analyse let me put in > question the point of machinic agency. All the more since 8chan, where the Christchurch killer was at culturally and literally at home and posted his announcement, is (along with the other chans) the least algorithmically

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Francis Hunger
Dear Geert and Luke, although I agree with  a large part of Lukes analyse let me put in question the point of machinic agency. Luke writes: "Calibrated correctly, platforms grasp the social, cultural or ideological connections between content, presenting a sequence of ideas that seem natural,

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Nick
Quoth Geert Lovink: > we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton > Tarrant and the Dark Social Web, an analysis on the role of social media in > the Christchurch killings, by Luke Munn, writing from Auckland/NZ: > >

Re: Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Ico Maly
Thank you! My thoughts can be read here: https://www.diggitmagazine.com/column/white-terrorism-white-genocide-and-metapolitics20 Op di 19 mrt. 2019 om 11:01 schreef Geert Lovink : > Dear nettimers, > > we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton > Tarrant and the

Christchurch and the Dark Social Web by Luke Munn

2019-03-19 Thread Geert Lovink
Dear nettimers, we have just published this essay on our blog: Algorithmic Hate: Brenton Tarrant and the Dark Social Web, an analysis on the role of social media in the Christchurch killings, by Luke Munn, writing from Auckland/NZ: http://networkcultures.org/blog/2019/03/19/luke-munn-al

Re: Banality of code

2019-03-19 Thread Carsten Agger
On 3/19/19 6:19 AM, Morlock Elloi wrote: > The most scary recent example I've seen are the new elevators: there > are no buttons/controls inside. They will take you where you have been > authorized to go, by someone else. > This makes me even happier that I've absolutely refused to use elevators

Re: Banality of code

2019-03-19 Thread David Garcia
There is a lift in the Universtity of Portsmouth UK in which among all the normal buttons there is one that simply reads “random”. On 19 Mar 2019, at 05:19, Morlock Elloi wrote: > The most scary recent example I've seen are the new elevators: there are no > buttons/controls inside. They will