Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Prem Chandavarkar
On 07-Jan-2021, at 11:55 PM, Brian Holmes wrote: > > In my view, far from being a harbinger of possibly worse threats to come, > yesterday's events were the most positive thing that could have happened. I > had hoped - dreamed - that we would see something exactly like this. > My sense is

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Molly Hankwitz
To all, Thank you to everyone on this thread for airing their views! I live the image of death flowers, and the wit and optimism; the critical flow. So essential to our mental health. Here is Mike Davis in New Left Review—

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Brian Holmes
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:27 PM Vesna Manojlovic wrote: > As someone from an (ex) country who went through "this", let me tell you: > it can be both/and. > > Vesna, I am glad you wrote. Throughout these years I have thought of other peoples' experiences in the former Yugoslavia, in Hungary, in

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Keith Sanborn
Dear John, There is a difference between a fascist coup attempt lead from above and a mass insurrection. Keith > On Jan 7, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Molly Hankwitz wrote: > >  > LOL John Young...Congressional rituals appeared overly dainty and passe, it > is true... > > To Felix... > > is

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Molly Hankwitz
LOL John Young...Congressional rituals appeared overly dainty and passe, it is true... To Felix... Yes, very true...a resurgence of the coastal elitism which Trump railed on on behalf of his base. Attempt to bring about "certainty"? Let's hope Biden's presidency will not simply slip

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Felix Stalder
The point we can all agree on is that it is too early to tell. I think there are two main open developments, in terms of immediate political dynamics. that will decide the direction this takes. The first is whether the republican party will fracture, because, clearly, not everyone is having a

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread John Young
Yesterday was thrilling for its replication of 1968 in challenging status quo across many stolidities of thought, behavior, belief, acceptance, complaint, compliance, modest defiance, embrace of bipartisanship, hypnotic left-right cum socialist-capitalist ifatuous deology, intellectual vacuity

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Flick Harrison
The more I watch about this event, the less it looks haphazard and disorganized. Sure, there’s a certain goofiness to a guy with a viking helmet sitting in the speaker’s chair… and there didn’t seem to be a clear physical plan once the mob got inside. But those are minor details. The Fascist

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread David Mandl
> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Molly Hankwitz wrote: > > And, once Trump is out, many of the worst will crawl back into their lairs > and breed little swastikas. (I looked but did not see any swastikas in the > crowd). A "Camp Auschwitz" T-shirt with (an English translation of) "Arbeit Macht

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Vesna Manojlovic
Brian, all, On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Brian Holmes wrote: In my view, far from being a harbinger of possibly worse threats to come, yesterday's events were the most positive thing that could have happened. As someone from an (ex) country who went through "this", let me tell you: it can be

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Dear Felix, Brian, Seb, et al, I would not say that it was a great thing that happened, but it certainly was an 'ok' thing to have happened, especially if you believe in representational democracy. Conditions that prompted Trump to take advantage of his "base" back in 2016 -- poverty, lack of

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread KMV
I think (and hope) you are right, Brian. In response to this comment: "The TV cameras, few as there were, were literally outside, observing, clutching their pearls, while a thousands social media cameras were inside, doing, celebrating." Worth noting that the rioters targeted the media during

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread seb olma
Brian at his best, thank you so much for this! Best, Seb > On 7 Jan 2021, at 19:25, Brian Holmes wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:32 AM Felix Stalder > wrote: > I followed, like many others I presume, yesterday's events in Washington > on TV (cnn) and on social

Re: made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Brian Holmes
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:32 AM Felix Stalder wrote: > I followed, like many others I presume, yesterday's events in Washington > on TV (cnn) and on social media at the same time. And it seems pretty > clear that this event was made on, through and for social media [...lots of other very

Re: Rebecca Solnit: Call it what it was: a coup attempt (The Guardian)

2021-01-07 Thread Vesna Manojlovic
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/07/what-happened-in-washington-dc-is-happening-around-the-world # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets #

Rebecca Solnit: Call it what it was: a coup attempt (The Guardian)

2021-01-07 Thread Patrice Riemens
Original to: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/06/trump-mob-storm-capitol-washington-coup-attempt Call it what it was: a coup attempt Rebecca Solnit I call it a coup attempt because, though I assume that it will not prevent the Biden presidency, it certainly intended. ‘On

Teaching Into the Void- on 'Blended' Learning and Other Digital Amenities

2021-01-07 Thread Donatella Della Ratta
Dear Nettimers happy new year all Would love to share with you my reflections on hybrid learning/teaching and, overall, on our screen life Just out with INC LongForm, thanks to Geert and the amazing INC team https://networkcultures.org/longform/2021/01/06/teaching-into-the-void/ I look forward to

made for TV, made for social media

2021-01-07 Thread Felix Stalder
I followed, like many others I presume, yesterday's events in Washington on TV (cnn) and on social media at the same time. And it seems pretty clear that this event was made on, through and for social media. The TV cameras, few as there were, were literally outside, observing, clutching their