Re: what does monetary value indicate?

2021-03-13 Thread Michael Goldhaber
Dear Felix, Ted, Bryan, and Dymitri, I have some differences of opinion about the nature of money, its meaning today, and what it says about digital art, etc. First, money is primarily a social construct, resting on a whole host of institutions and arrangements. These inevitably change dependi

Re: what does monetary value indicate?

2021-03-13 Thread Felix Stalder
On 13.03.21 15:14, tbyfield wrote: > If I drew a venn diagram of how uninteresting mass digital art, the > art-systems economics, and cryptographic para-currencies have become, > you'd think it was just a circle Ted, you, of all people, know that 'interesting' is not an attribute of objects, but

Re: what does monetary value indicate?

2021-03-13 Thread John Young
Well argued. At 09:40 AM 3/13/2021, Dmytri Kleiner wrote: On 2021-03-13 15:14, tbyfield wrote: > If I drew a venn diagram of how uninteresting mass digital # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filter

Re: what does monetary value indicate?

2021-03-13 Thread Dmytri Kleiner
On 2021-03-13 15:14, tbyfield wrote: If I drew a venn diagram of how uninteresting mass digital art, the art-systems economics, and cryptographic para-currencies have become, you'd think it was just a circle. If it's helpful, I wrote a fairly detailed explanation of the monetary economics of

Re: what does monetary value indicate?

2021-03-13 Thread tbyfield
Felix, your questions have triggered some noise (what doesn't these days?) but they don't seem to have generated much light. But some parts of the world are pretty much consigned to darkness If I drew a venn diagram of how uninteresting mass digital art, the art-systems economics, and cryptogra

Digital Commoning Practices / TODAY/ Variations of Gender and Technology Trouble by Cornelia Sollfrank

2021-03-13 Thread Station of Commons
Digital Commoning Practices Please not the time, and zoom link: https://www.stationofcommons.org/events/digital-commoning-practices https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85288383201 13.03.2021 7pm-8pm UTC+2 Variations of Gender and Technology Trouble by Cornelia Sollfrank Technofeminism is based on two

Re: Disassociation from Michel Bauwens

2021-03-13 Thread mp
Things are shifting, tectonic plates are sliding, sides are being chosen: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/far-right-open-source-technology-censorship Left and right (derived from the seating arrangements of two elitist factions centuries ago) have lost meaning and a fundamental str

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2021-03-13 Thread Niels Wolf
Unsubscribe please On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 05:55, John Hopkins wrote: > And real CO2 being generated to fuel the fucking 'mining' processors ... > Can we > kill this beast yet? We've got coal on the run in much of the US, but what > a > hopeless idea, that processor cycles is related to value and