Re: WG: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-10-01 Thread Morlock Elloi
There is another interesting outcome proposed here http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/09/30/tales-from-the-american-dmz-its-almost-all-economics/ namely, gated communities/city-states in the midst of medieval chaos: The third solution, and if the truth be told the path I suspect at least

Re: WG: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-29 Thread Adrian McEwen
[I'm really enjoying the discussion in this thread, thanks all!] If we do end up with a new vastly distributed factory then the question becomes how do we build a similarly distributed and decentralised system to orchestrate it? There are already many startups (3dhubs.com, WikiFactory,

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-29 Thread Alex Foti
Dear Brian, Felix, and all the Schumpeterian state is already with us (e.g. The Entrepreneurial State by Mazzuccato). The crisis has brought industrial policy back into fashion, and today this means innovation policy, or rather incentives and subsidies for digital innovation. So in a sense, all

Re: WG: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-25 Thread Alex Foti
I totally agree you have to look at productivity distribution regimes (in this boyer-coriat supplemented perez-freeman) - in 1950-1973 it was basically productivity growth out of taylorized assemly-line operation going to wages (in the US, for Germany, Japan and other laggards it

Re: WG: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-24 Thread Morlock Elloi
> I would like to push forward this idea: we will develope to be an > automaton-society. Mashinery will do a more and more growing part of > everything that has to be done to create good and sustainable living > conditions for everyone. This seems to be the case - human work is getting redundant

WG: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-24 Thread Dr. Ludger Eversmann
hope this could be or at least could contain some 'pudding' for a call to arms. Cheers, Ludger -Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism Datum: 2016-07-17T16:37:59+0200 Von: "Felix Stalder" <fe...@openflows.com> An: "nettim...@mx.kei

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-24 Thread Alex Foti
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/35800940/alex-foti-the-grid-amp-the-fork-left-curve/2 in case you wanna read what appeared on nettime 2006 on crisis theoy and then was reissued on left curve shortly after. i have a scaled back and refined version of the grid in english if

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-20 Thread Morlock Elloi
Maybe I'm making mistake assuming that "theory" here means normative/scientific theory, something that strives to provide predictions in sustainable and repeatable fashion. Theories that predict past are useless, and what someone feels the future should be and steps to achieve that is, in my

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-20 Thread Alex Foti
well this is about falsificationism in social theory - and it pretty much applies to any theory in social science - be it modernization functionalism underdevelopment etc in my view a good social theory must at least explain the basic facts of the present and the recent past

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-17 Thread Alex Foti
Brian poses the right questions. As for regulation theory mixed with kondratiev please also see (in addition to paul mason) my two 2009 contributions which built on stuff posted on nettime https://www.academia.edu/9343417/Climate_Anarchists_vs_Green_Capitalists (pag 5-6) and

Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-17 Thread Brian Holmes
On 07/17/2016 09:35 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: But what if, this system is like the Soviet Union, unable to reform itself, sticking to its ideology and forms of organization, despite mounting evidence that the problems it tries to solve are getting worse, rather than better? This is a possible

Re: Fwd: Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-17 Thread Morlock Elloi
The problem with global social theories that deal with long time constants is that they are next to impossible to prove, unless one has access to parallel universes (even assuming that existence of correct theory is possible, which may not be true due to the underlining complexity which at

Re: Forms of decisionism

2016-07-15 Thread Prem Chandavarkar
When one accepts that the exception is the rule, the question changes from "How do I recover social order?" to "How do I live with being lost?" Rebecca Solnit argues that we must acquire the wisdom of the woodsman who can wander into the most unfamiliar woods, but because he has learnt to discern

Forms of decisionism

2016-07-15 Thread Brian Holmes
Past a certain point of chaos, the question is no longer whether or not to enter a state of exception. The question is when, how, with whom, by what means, and to what ends. The idea of a "social order" is very similar to the idea of "the sun rising in the morning." It may be cloudy, the horizon