Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!e

2016-03-28 Thread Molly Hankwitz
This is precisely what I have been arguing and what I present as a plausible alternative thinking to my students - platform cooperatives which Trebir Schulz has been working on for instance - but that what we need - is mainly some kind of non proprietary social networking --because the underlying b

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-28 Thread carlo von lynX
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:51 AM, carlo von lynX > I think we need distributed social networking, with nodes that act > > like a Facebook on your own device but only interact through a network > > of agnostic relays, Tor style, with zero external authorities. Not even > > "trusted" people running s

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-22 Thread Florian Cramer
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:51 AM, carlo von lynX wrote: I think we need distributed social networking, with nodes that act like a Facebook on your own device but only interact through a network of agnostic relays, Tor style, with zero external authorities. Not even "trust

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-22 Thread morlockelloi
It is hard on Android and very hard on iOS to have a handset receive unsolicited messages, which is the only way to avoid centralized servers, even the rendezvous-only ones. This is by design. Tor is not the solution because the number of exit nodes is many orders of magnitude lower than the nu

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-22 Thread carlo von lynX
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 07:44:03PM -0700, morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: > Open or closed software doesn't make much difference, it's all about > data. An operator cannot 'open' data (like in letting everyone know > what the data and its derivatives are) without factoring itself out > of the busine

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-21 Thread Carsten Agger
Den 20-03-2016 kl. 11:43 skrev Patrice Riemens: original to: http://sivertimes.com/richard-stallman-wants-to-destroy-facebook-to-protect-privacy/17274 original interview in Le Devoir (Montreal) (in French): http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/actualites-en-societe/465389/eradiquer-facebook-pour-sau

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-21 Thread morlockelloi
Open or closed software doesn't make much difference, it's all about data. An operator cannot 'open' data (like in letting everyone know what the data and its derivatives are) without factoring itself out of the business. On the other hand, there are (yet) no signs that consumers will stop feeding

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook! And as to apple case

2016-03-21 Thread Michael H. Goldhaber
As to the Apple case, haven't people always been able to write messages in cypher or just whisper them without government having any right to force someone else to decode or to listen in? Does the fact that now enciphering is a commercial service change that fundamentally? Patrice writes: it is i

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-21 Thread morlockelloi
Open or closed software doesn't make much difference, it's all about data. An operator cannot 'open' data (like in letting everyone know what the data and its derivatives are) without factoring itself out of the business. On the other hand, there are (yet) no signs that consumers will stop feeding

Re: Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-20 Thread David Mandl
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Patrice Riemens wrote: > > For Stallman, proprietary software is a fundamental obstacle to > freedom since the editor is able to decide the content, functionality, > impose censorship or deploy at will update. I realize that this is a short interview, but I almost

Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

2016-03-20 Thread Patrice Riemens
original to: http://sivertimes.com/richard-stallman-wants-to-destroy-facebook-to-protect-privacy/17274 original interview in Le Devoir (Montreal) (in French): http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/actualites-en-societe/465389/eradiquer-facebook-pour-sauver-la-democratie Richard Stallman wants to destr