Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-10 Thread Newmedia
Dear Nettimers: "McLuhanite technological determinism" . . . !! As maybe the only person from the Wall Street "wing" of the technology industry (with at least one confirmed *weird* "assignment" from the CIA) to ever participate in nettime -- starting with that late-night phone-call from Di

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-07 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 05 Nov 2015, John Hopkins wrote: > I'm wondering if there are any deeper stats available -- in > retrospect -- such as subscriber numbers over time; posts over time, > etc... My email archive shows 22600 entries ... but I had a few gaps > of some months over the course of the almost 20 yea

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-05 Thread John Hopkins
A bit late on the thread -- I concur with Jaromil -- a fair, well-written, and inclusive (as far as that goes) account of the list, kudos for taking the time to compose it. Age does (productively or not) bring on reflection on the past, and at two decades, well, it's now a collective history. Th

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-04 Thread t byfield
David, I agree that it's always great to see how Brian situates ideas with incredible breadth. Maybe you should've asked him to write an essay about nettime for your tactical media anthology. :^) But I want to question your account of the time. The rubble of the twin towers was an anthill comp

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-04 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Dear nettimers, It feels a bit awkward to respond in this thread as the co-editor of the anthology this text is going to be part of, where I think the text is going to be a great contribution, a fascinating account of twenty years of from a first-hand perspective. However, I am dee

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-04 Thread Brian Holmes
By providing freshly printed and essentially free money to private banks (sometimes even foreign banks, in the US case) governments were able to stop cascading failures and halt any drift toward a great depression. In China a huge infrastructure program was undertaken. In Japan mon

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-04 Thread David Garcia
Great to once again be able to tune in to Brian's imaginative sweep. Just to add to Brian's example below important but informal collaborations connected to nettime I would definitely add all (except edition 1) editions of Next 5 Minutes festivals of Tactical Media. Nettime acted lik

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-04 Thread prem . cnt
> On 4 Nov 2015, at 9:23 a.m., Brian Holmes > wrote: > The crucial intervention so far has been the unprecedented injection of some > 12 trillion USD into the global monetary system by central banks, which know > very well what each other are doing. The next crucial intervention will be to >

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-03 Thread Brian Holmes
This is an intricate text with a lot of angles on the subject - not a bad thing, since the subject in question is now 4,500 people! I want to look behind just one sentence: "From the beginning, served as an environment for experimentation with the new medium and, beyond that, as a collaborati

***SPAM*** Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-01 Thread morlockelloi
The unsaid conclusion is that nettime did not get coopted in any particular (and ultimately ephemeral) movement/activism and did not develop stifling intimacy. It remained slightly uncomfortable for all involved, which is a quality rarely attained. (too bad 'cosmopolitan' has been coopted) O

Re: choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-01 Thread Jaromil
so good!!! thanks! this text comes timely and is a motivating read. recently you noticed i started being around nettime more often... this little historical text here is a great milestone and feels also very inclusive. I approve and always recommend recommend making less individual names, but per

choose-your-own adventure: a brief history of nettime

2015-11-01 Thread nettime's mod squad
Eric Kluitenberg and David Garcia asked us to draft an entry/essay on for their upcoming anthology on tactical media, so we did. But it quickly became clear that if we seriously believed our our argument, we'd need to invite comments from the entire list. So, without further adieu, here it is: