Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-05 Thread Keith Hart
Mark, There are two types of error: telling someone something they know already and not telling them something they don't know. I would rather commit the first type of error, but most of the people I know commit the second. So here goes. Louis Dumont is best known for his work on India. He

Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-05 Thread Newmedia
Keith: Thanks for your thoughtful and generous reply. My fascination with the Germans is certainly driven in part by my inability to read the language (plus some potential ancestral linkage) and, alas, my French isn't proficient enough to read Dumont in the original but I'll gladly look

Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-04 Thread Newmedia
Brian: Mark, this one is truly fascinating. Send updates as you go. Thanks. Here's some more . . . The key question, I believe, is what happened to VIRTUE in these socio-economic transitions. As you know, the *four* cardinal virtues and, thus, the foundation of Western culture --

Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-03 Thread Brian Holmes
Mark, this one is truly fascinating. Send updates as you go. What you say about desire largely holds, I don't disagree. But over that three hundred years since Adam Smith, a major corrective to the moral theory of desire, which is visible already in Marx and explicit in Nietzsche, is that the

nettime political-economy and desire

2012-03-03 Thread allan siegel
Greetings On this question it might be worth it for those interested to take a look at The Passions and the Interests by Albert O. Hirschman at Princeton Univ Press. He illustrates the historical roots of what we can call the 'avaricious' side of capitalism; an issue that has been debated for

Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-03 Thread Jonathan Marshall
Morlock writes: There is pretty much a consensus that in the first world only about 10-15% need to work to provide *all* goods and services. Then, depending on the system, there are 15-20% of the armed guards (police, military, etc), and the rest are sort of ... redundant. Hence unemployment and

Re: nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-02 Thread Newmedia
Mr. Ghost-of-Wells: As your email address indicates, you are apparently a fan of H.G. Wells. Of course, the Morlocks and Eloi (plural, one l) are the dramatis persona in Well's 1895 Time Machine. By the year 802,701 AD, _humanity_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_race) has evolved

nettime Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-01 Thread Newmedia
Folks: In preparation for some work on the impact of digital technology on political-economy, I have been re-reading Mandeville, Smith, Maltham, RIccardo and others (including various commentators like Marx) to try to sort out what *assumptions* were made about humans in the beginning of