Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-10-14 Thread florian schneider
[this message got stuck in my outbox while travelling  from one outgoing
mailserver to another... sorry for the delay /fls]

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 12:49 PM, David Garcia wrote:

 It is a sad truth that although imperfect, the most effective
 guarantor of the personal safety upon which the freedom Geert and
 Florian celebrate, including (perhaps especially) the innovations of
 the opensource movement, are not universal principals but the power
 sovereign states, able and willing to offer minimal conditions of
 safety to its resident netizens, activists and hackers whether in
 Brisbane, Berlin or Delhi.

may i disagree? it's a bit late, and very illegitimate but i guess i
still should. this argument somehow reminds me to the conservative
teacher who told me when i went to my first demonstrations in the
early 80ies: you are going to fight against a system that at least
allows you to fight against it. he did not really understand that it
was precisely that hypocrisy of the western propaganda during the cold
war that was outraging me and lots of others young guys. why one
should have to decide between bad and worse?

geert and me are certainly not so tired that we would prefer to lay
back and refer to universal principals. i also feel limited gratitude
to the power of souvereign states, which tend to offer conditions of
paranoia rather than safety. when we are talking about freedom of
movement and freedom of communication we are referring to the everyday
struggles of millions of people crossing borders as well as pirating
brands, producing generics, writing open source code or using
p2p-software. there is a multitude of reasons to exercise these very
different practices; but first of all it refers to an impregnable
autonomy of resisting and refusing both the new border and the
intellectual property regimes which are set up by souvereign nation
states and global corporations.  apparently they rely existentially on
depriving more and more people of freedoms, which are even not the
privilege of some netizens anymore. what has been formerly known as a
human right, became subject of  all sorts of management strategies.

in this situation conscience-stricken moralizing makes us only weaker
than we are, because it plays into the hands of those whose power
originates from granting limited, temporary or no access to sources
and resources.

i feel no need to feel guilty or excuse for the bizarre coincidence
that i may be in possession of a passport that currently allows me to
travel across most of the borders of this world. but i feel a need to
enjoy such advantages with everybody on this globe. i feel a need to
struggle for freedom of movement,  not because i feel misery with
these poor victims, who have to escape from where they have been born
and should stay for the sake of authenticity, nativity and noble
savageness. the reason is that i have lots of respect and admiration
for anyone who makes the difficult decision to leave one's point of
origin.

i guess the excessive abuse of the verb share in this context (i.e.
file-sharing) carries enormous ideological impact. as if one would
loose something like safety, if mobility is no longer exclusive to
those who pretend to be already fed up with it or are already too wise
and sophisticated to be affected by it; as if one would have only half
of the fun if others enjoy the same as oneself. actually the opposite
is true: i am glad, when i log onto my computer in the morning and
when i see how many people downloaded something they were looking for.
i am glad when i was able to support somebody to get at least a chance
to spend even some time in areas of the world that are supposed to be
reserved for the exclusive usage of only a few.

 Geert and Florian's words are as always provide an inspiring dose of
 boosterism but nevertheless (in this paragraph at least) they are a
 chimera because the condition of the privileged and mobile, net-savy
 intelligencia they generously wish to universalize is totally
 dependent on the existence of the network of states and their
 institutions whose boarders they would dissolve. To act as though
 globalization and the networks (from either above or below) have
 rendered nation states either illusory or merely an oppressive
 anachronism, is to fail to see the plight of the tens of thousands of
 stateless people, whose membership of the human family alone affords
 them little pity, protection or hope, let alone freedom (reverse
 engineered or otherwise). This outdated narrative which claims to be
 going beyond the naivetes of the dot.gone era, merely succeed (here
 and there) in recuperating its lack of (all but the most recent)
 historical awareness. Despite a critical ambience we are re-visiting
 the euphoria of another holiday from history. Geert and Florian
 dissolve in the universalising solvent of their rhetoric the fact that
 many important liberation movements (including that taking place in
 Palestine) are more than 

Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-09-24 Thread David Garcia
 All too often we have encountered a fear of freedom amongst radical
 activists. There is a deep desire to call for regulation and control
 that, in the past, the nation-state and its repressive apparatus had
 to enforce upon the out-of-control capitalism. As true
 techno-libertarians we have to state: the struggle is about nothing
 else other than freedom (Everyone is a Californian). There is a
 freedom of sharing, exchanging, multiplying and distributing
 resources, no matter how material or immaterial. So far, freedom has
 always been connected with equality, and therefore tied up with the
 possession of or alienation from property. Today this link is broken.
 It is exactly the complete farce of all sorts of management scenarios
 (from border management to digital rights management) which make
 evident that property is an absolutely inadequate juridico-political
 relation to handle the potential and the complexity of social
 relationships within the immaterial sphere of production and
 distribution. It is an essential and unalterable fact that ideas
 circulate online and people are free to move around offline. Content
 should not be restricted to the Internet or any one medium for that
 matter. For its own sake the multitudes will refuse to be handcuffed
 and fettered by the myths of a nation-state or some global government.


It is a sad truth that although imperfect, the most effective guarantor of
the personal safety upon which the freedom Geert and Florian celebrate,
including (perhaps especially) the innovations of the opensource movement,
are not universal principals but the power sovereign states, able and
willing to offer minimal conditions of safety to its resident netizens,
activists and hackers whether in Brisbane, Berlin or Delhi.

Geert and Florian's words are as always provide an inspiring dose of
boosterism but nevertheless (in this paragraph at least) they are a
chimera because the condition of the privileged and mobile, net-savy
intelligencia they generously wish to universalize is totally dependent on
the existence of the network of states and their institutions whose
boarders they would dissolve. To act as though globalization and the
networks (from either above or below) have rendered nation states either
illusory or merely an oppressive anachronism, is to fail to see the plight
of the tens of thousands of stateless people, whose membership of the
human family alone affords them little pity, protection or hope, let alone
freedom (reverse engineered or otherwise). This outdated narrative which
claims to be going beyond the naivetes of the dot.gone era, merely succeed
(here and there) in recuperating its lack of (all but the most recent)
historical awareness. Despite a critical ambience we are re-visiting the
euphoria of another holiday from history. Geert and Florian dissolve in
the universalising solvent of their rhetoric the fact that many important
liberation movements (including that taking place in Palestine) are more
than than ever likely to be nationalist movements. Kurds. Tamils, Kosovar
Albanians all seek statehood and the right to create a framework of legal
and political protection for their people. Try telling Palestinian
fighters who dream of living in their own country that they are
handcuffed to the myth of the nation-state.

There are many hells in this world and many (admittedly by no means all)
of the worst occur when not only through oppressive by states, but when
states break down. And the technologies of violence that were previously
under proprietary control of the nation are opensourced (in proliferation)
to the warlords and the gangsters. When a state dissolves and our
predatory side is unconstrained we will all ask just one question: where
will I be safe? It is then that we discover (empirically) why boarders
exist. Of course even under these conditions we remain within boarders..
but these boarders shrink, drastically -along with our freedoms- as we
slide from nation to tribe to clan to gang. And the much celebrated
commons becomes Shakespeare's pitiless heath where (if we are
luckless) we might attain the freedom of a wandering Lear, who, naked and
unprotected, is thus purified to the state of natural man and so becomes
that 'poor, bare forked animal' .. Is this fear of freedom? You bet!

There is always great pleasure in reading the inspirational texts Geert
and Florian but they also give the sense that it might be time for a
slightly different tone. For at least some critical internet culture to
proclaim less heroically, Zarathustra style, from lofty peaks. Maybe
alongside charismatic Nietzschean flights, we might remember Gide who
famously declared that fear and trembling are the best in man..

david garcia









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Re: nettime Reverse Engineering Freedom and make world paper#3

2003-09-24 Thread Brian Holmes
David Garcia writes:

There are many hells in this world and many (admittedly by no means 
all) of the worst occur when not only through oppressive by states, 
but when states break down.

Without going so far as Gide's fear and trembling (David, does 
rhetorical excess produce rhetorical counter-excess?) I'd say that 
politics is all about the relation between markets, governments and 
voluntary associations (or civil society but the term's gotten too 
heavily freighted). These three poles can be found to varying degrees 
in all modern social activity: David is right to point out how much 
of our freedom depends on collective frameworks, someone else would 
point out that market-oriented activities have contributed most of 
our tools as well (I'd have some return arguments there, in fact I'd 
have pages and chapters of social theory on how the balances between 
the three poles could change, how markets could transform from the 
current price-fixing ones, how state functions could be reinvented 
etc. - but the point can stand for the moment). The internet has 
given a big boost to the possibilities of voluntary association, and 
that's where Geert and Florian's tributes to freedom are interesting, 
because they're trying to encourage some collective initiative. And 
for good reasons, cause it's currently the most interesting game in 
town. But I'd say the point is both to continually try to carve out 
more space for these free associations, and to gauge the effects 
they're having on the ongoing stories of market and state. Because 
both those awesomely powerful realities show no signs of going away 
tomorrow - except maybe in the realm of failed states, which, I'd 
like to point out, are a very prominent feature of the current period 
of transnational state capitalism as practiced by the powerful 
corporations and countries, at the expense of the weaker ones. A 
little decay and global chaos is just part of the price for keeping 
up the rapacious resource extraction and military/ideological 
control. There's a state of affairs that the free associates ought to 
try and transform - maybe with some more precise strategies than we 
currently have on the table. Which is not to say that the last 4 or 5 
years of activism have been entirely unfruitful

best to all, Brian

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