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2018-11-05 Thread J Contreras
I want to unsubscribe to your mailing list El dom., 4 nov 2018 8:21 p. m., escribió: > Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to > nettime-l@mail.kein.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > or, via emai

Re: nettime-l Digest, Vol 134, Issue 18

2018-11-05 Thread Neil Walker
video where a brilliant young woman, Ash Sarkar, talks > > about the deliberate persecution of black radical socialists after the > > 1960s, and about the way that leftist social movements were weakened as a > > result. She goes on to develop a class analysis which doesn't dis

Re: Does Nettime have a code of conduct, policies or other governance mechanisms?

2018-11-05 Thread Johnatan Petterson
hey, let's do a inter section rhizome with the various ways people - animals think populate the NettTime list & create forward- culture aesthetics- perhaps to go in the sense of Felix Stadler who already advocated towards new aesthetics in new kinds of medium to answer the question of work, class,

Re: Complexity and nostalgia

2018-11-05 Thread frank . 20 . tigrero
>> I cannot believe we are still debating "class vs. identity" we're not, at least nobody really is except for white supremacist trolls like AB, as Alice, Angela and Nina have pointed out. Then some dude tells Angela to "chill". Pretty revolting stuff. Agree with Angela that there should be a 1

Re: apropos of nothing

2018-11-05 Thread Alessandra Renzi
I have always seen Nettime as a platform for productive conversations of different kinds and have welcomed even the unpleasant moments of friction and egotism that have been part of Nettime debates over the years. The stakes were different. A couple of days ago, the University of Toronto’ Munk

Ash & Kirsty - the brilliant voices of contemporary Marxism

2018-11-05 Thread Alexander Bard
Dear All Ash and Kirsty's conversation is flawless. A million thanks to Ari for posting the link. These two young women do they exactly what I have been asking for, they put class first and identities second and thereby arrive at a Marxist analysis of contemporary society from which we can build a

Re: apropos of nothing

2018-11-05 Thread Nina Temporär
Yes, yet another sad moment the „spot the mistake“ game seems a level too high here... If one wants to see a silver lining in this whole incident, it’s that it helped make the deep contempt for certain minorities surface that’ve been lingering in nettime’s viscera. Therefore I also do think It

Taking sides

2018-11-05 Thread Ryan Griffis
> > I take neither side at Charlottesville Need anyone say more? As we in the US have been saying for years about the Republican party's turn to explicit and open authoritarianism, believe people when they tell you who they are. In my experience, real pragmatism follows action and results. The pe

Re: apropos of nothing

2018-11-05 Thread tbyfield
Angela, all — Felix Stalder and I are the two people who've consistently moderated the list for the last twenty years. We don't speak for each other, but for my part the simple and straightforward answer to your question is no: nettime will not give fascists a platform from which to recruit. I

Re: Taking sides

2018-11-05 Thread tbyfield
On 6 Nov 2018, at 3:50, Ryan Griffis wrote: I take neither side at Charlottesville Need anyone say more? Nope. 'Charlottesville' was a neo-nazi riot in which a person was murdered. That's a good reason to take a side — against neo-nazis. To not take a side is, in effect, to condone that mu