Re: nettime Aaron Swartz charged for downloading too many Journal articles from the Library: Please sign suport petition.

2011-07-20 Thread Rob Myers
On 20/07/11 14:33, Nick wrote: wire fraud (for obtaining property) [count 1], That's one of the things they went after Steve Kurtz for in the end... - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, #

Re: nettime No JSTOR downloads or bicycle-helmet-masks for you

2011-07-24 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/07/11 21:11, David Golumbia wrote: watch out everyone... if you're not very careful, this story may make your ideology start to show. Threatening someone with 35 years imprisonment for a case that had already been settled by the parties involved in order to send a message seems pretty

Re: nettime My Lawyer is an Artist

2011-11-15 Thread Rob Myers
On 15/11/11 10:15, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: IMHO nothing can stop a pruducer from changing his mind for the future. They cannot however prevent the people who have received copies of their work under a licence offering that work to other people under the same licence. So yes the artist can

Re: nettime Occupy Wall Street and the Left

2012-01-19 Thread Rob Myers
On 19/01/12 15:09, Flick Harrison wrote: Just to bring this back to digital technology... Kodak filed for bankruptcy today. We're halfway to Cory Doctorow's Makers. :-) - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net

Re: nettime What do you think about .art?

2012-03-10 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/03/12 16:13, miltosmane...@gmail.com wrote: I absolutely agree. .art is simply ridiculous, who wants to be called .art? Various of my bots, and several projects I have in mind to critique the prevalent informal institutional theory. :-) - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no

Re: nettime What do you think about .art?

2012-03-10 Thread Rob Myers
Also, I demand a .marx domain. - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l #

Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

2012-05-10 Thread Rob Myers
On 05/09/2012 10:31 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:45:33PM +0100, Rob Myers wrote: On 05/08/2012 05:52 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: The curiously absent question is why there should be social media in the first place, and 'media' in general. Lascaux. Notice that memes

Re: nettime Response to Academe Is Complicit essay

2013-01-23 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/01/13 05:04, Lincoln Cushing wrote: By withholding free access to the ultimate goody, the 60 megabyte image file, am I a traitor to the Free Culture Movement? If you want to phrase it in those terms, then yes. - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission

Re: nettime Means of production: The factory-floor knowledge economy (le monde diplo)

2013-03-24 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/03/13 19:18, Morlock Elloi wrote: Desktop publishing, now 20+ years old, had the same false premise. Ability to typeset and print at home did not change publishing world much. The same big publishers are making the same money today, and choose what they want to print in pretty much the

Re: nettime Essay-Grading Software

2013-04-26 Thread Rob Myers
On 26/04/13 15:52, newme...@aol.com wrote: Machines will *never* become conscious or emotional or spiritual because none of that is programmed into them. And once it is these won't be hallmarks of humanity, as is always the case with AI. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use

Re: nettime Jaron lanier: The Internet destroyed the middle class

2013-05-14 Thread Rob Myers
On 13/05/13 18:11, Keith Hart wrote: Thanks for posting this. It's a great interview and I downloaded the book onto my Kindle. Lanier's ideas about the middle class as an artificial product of modernity are interesting That sounds similar to Paul Graham's interesting opinions about unions -

Re: nettime dark days

2013-06-12 Thread Rob Myers
On 12/06/13 09:38, Patrice Riemens wrote: GeziPark, PRISM, ERT shutdown come all as a shock. Some of the saddest specialist responses to PRISM that I've read argue that it isn't a shock and that clever people knew this sort of thing was going on anyway. # distributed via nettime: no

Re: nettime Phil Agre: Supporting the Intellectual Life of a Democratic Soc...

2013-09-23 Thread Rob Myers
On 20/09/13 10:20 AM, newme...@aol.com wrote: Television has *satellites* that BEAM the same propaganda to everyone. The Internet does not. As a result, MEMES don't work any more! (Sorry, Kalle, you can't advertise your way to a revolution anymore.) If we accept meme theory then memes

Re: nettime MediaMOO dead?!

2013-11-17 Thread Rob Myers
On 16/11/13 01:09 PM, { brad brace } wrote: A professional community for media researchers. MediaMOO has been down since maybe the end of July. I visited it just before it went. While clearing out my house to move I found my ex partners notebooks containing her object numbers there so I went

Re: nettime Renault will remotely lock down electric cars

2013-11-19 Thread Rob Myers
On 17/11/13 02:30 PM, mez breeze wrote: [From: https://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/2013/10/31/renault-will-remotely-lock-down-electric-cars/ ] For a long time, cars were a symbol of freedom and independence. No longer. In its Zoe electric car, car maker Renault apparently has the ability to

Re: nettime a free letter to the creative commons and for the consideration

2013-12-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 30/11/13 11:01 AM, Özgür K. wrote: i would also ask you to consider renaming the real free culture licenses you provide as *free culture creative commons license* and more importantly renaming the rest of the cc licenses as *non-free culture creative commons license* or *permission culture

Re: nettime GoldieBlox, fair use, and the cult of disruption

2013-12-03 Thread Rob Myers
On 03/12/13 01:37 AM, nettime's avid reader wrote: most importantly, they have a long-standing policy that no Beastie Boys songs shall ever be used in commercial advertisements. (They don’t mention, although they could, that this last was actually an explicit dying wish of Adam Yauch, a/k/a

Re: nettime History of Computer Art, chap. V

2013-12-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 10/12/13 02:39 PM, Ian Milliss wrote: Have to agree completely, it gets very boring seeing histories that are only about the US and Europe or so called global histories/exhibitions that cover only the US, Europe and a few token Chinese artists.

Re: nettime Anonymous movement in decline?

2014-01-07 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/01/14 01:23 PM, Felix Stalder wrote: But this rise and decline meme is a typical media cycle. This. But, even if nobody would ever use the name Anonymous anymore, and all the Guy Fawkes masks would rot in drawers around the world, what would that mean? Decline? Of what exactly? Of an

nettime [digest x 2] Re: Ippolita Collective: In the Facebook Aquarium

2014-02-12 Thread Rob Myers
[digested @ nettime -- mid(tb)] Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org Re: nettime Ippolita Collective: In the Facebook Aquarium (Part Re: nettime Ippolita Collective: in the Face Book Aquarium, Part

Re: nettime do you know the way to san jose digest [x3: hankwitz

2014-05-17 Thread Rob Myers
On 16/05/14 08:45 AM, morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: This is a slippery slope. Wheee! What is natural about diversity, or letting the poor live? It depends how you're reifying them. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing

Re: nettime a free letter to cultural institutions

2014-06-13 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Florian Cramer: I disagree with this letter since I am working for a small cultural venue (WORM in Rotterdam) myself and see a discrepancy between good intentions and not-so-good practical consequences. First of all: the release of work as

Re: nettime a free letter to cultural digest [2x]

2014-06-17 Thread Rob Myers
- Forwarded message from Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org Subject: Re: nettime a free letter to cultural institutions Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:03:13 + To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 morlockel...@yahoo.com

Re: nettime a free letter to cultural digest [2x]

2014-06-17 Thread Rob Myers
- Forwarded message from Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org Subject: Re: nettime a free letter to cultural institutions Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:03:13 + To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 morlockel...@yahoo.com

Re: nettime a free letter to cultural institutions

2014-06-27 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Florian Cramer: I'd be very interested to hear why a punk band wouldn't want to release music under a free license. For example, because it doesn't want - for political reasons - its music to end up on Spotify, Google or similar corporate

Re: nettime Nick Montfort: The Facepalm at the End of the Mind

2014-07-14 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/07/14 12:19 AM, nettime_2.0 wrote: * You know how Facebook is, well, a company, a for-profit corporation? Given the apparent moral carte blanch it afford, the temptation to incorporate has never been stronger. -BEGIN PGP

Re: nettime Evgeny Morozov: The rise of data and the death of politics

2014-07-22 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/07/14 11:38 AM, Patrice Riemens wrote: Algorithmic regulation, whatever its immediate benefits, will give us a political regime where technology corporations and government bureaucrats call all the shots. It depends how the algorithms

Re: nettime paying users for their data

2014-07-27 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/07/14 02:29 AM, Felix Stalder wrote: Now this is obviously the roughest of ballpark estimates you can make -- and I would be happy to see a better one -- but on the face of it, it seems to indicate that viewing one personal data as an

Re: nettime Evgeny Morozov: How much for your data? (LMD)

2014-08-25 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/08/14 06:37 AM, Patrice Riemens wrote: by Evgeny Morozov [...] The realisation that data produced by everyday appliances, smart toothbrushes or smart toilets, can be monetised has produced an interesting resistance against the

Re: nettime Evgeny Morozov and the Perils of Highbrow Journalism

2014-10-16 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/10/14 03:17 AM, Geert Lovink wrote: Will this scandal be the beginning of his downfall? Morozov has dealt in second-hand goods since his conversion. I've never met anyone he's fooled. So I'm not sure what his downfall would entail. -BEGIN

Re: nettime GCHQ Director: The web is a terrorist's command-and-control

2014-11-05 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/14 08:17 PM, nettime's_zentral_kommittee wrote: the internet grew out of the values of western democracy, not vice versa. Unlike the mushrooms at GCHQ. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1

Re: nettime Hackers can't solve Surveillance

2015-01-04 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/15 07:55 PM, morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: no amount of 20th century politics will solve this. Well, 19th Century... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUqKZaAAoJECciMUAZd2dZj/IIALHSKNEuxGJ1sx1sG+0nhwBj

Re: nettime Claire Bishop’s Game: Sub

2015-06-25 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/06/15 12:42 AM, Armin Medosch wrote: it is indeed perplexing that Bishop manages to write a pretty good book about participation whilst leaving out any mentioning of media art or digital art or whatever you call it. Possibly the reception of their earlier views on digital art didn't

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin Myths

2015-11-30 Thread Rob Myers
On 2015-11-30 11:06, nettime's_forgotten_password wrote: >1. "Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer system." It is. Anyone can (and should) run a full node. Doubly so if they're concerned about centralisation. >2. "Bitcoin does away with intermediaries and fees." There are no necessary intermediaries in

Re: Live Your Models

2016-05-03 Thread Rob Myers
On Tue, 3 May 2016, at 01:31 PM, Florian Cramer wrote: >[...] >Bitcoin repeats the history of so-called "neoliberalism" precisely >because it _is_ neoliberalism (in the sense we understand the word >today), in its most extreme form of libertarian anarcho-capitalism. In >fact,

Re: Ethereum: DAO - "The Attacker"

2016-07-25 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/07/16 02:41 AM, Jaromil wrote: > - The REAL community of people behind Ethereum is now rejecting the > bail-out, probably marking in history the first time in which there > can be a bail-out rejection by grass-roots movements?? > Ethereum Classic is announced

Re: On Accelerationism (Fred Turner)

2016-09-04 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/09/16 01:48 PM, nettime's slow reader wrote: > > http://www.publicbooks.org/nonfiction/on-accelerationism > > [...] > > [1] To their credit, Srnicek and Williams do not ask us to dissolve into > digital ones and zeros, as John Perry Barlow once did. Their call for a > universal basic

Re: In Praise of Cash

2017-03-02 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, at 09:22 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: > Just to mention the latest, and perhaps the most insidious entry in the > war on cash: Bitcoin, all-transactions-always-public PoW hash system > operated mostly by Chinese mints, touted to post-New Agers as the Next > Big Thing. Bitcoin