Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How

2015-07-28 Thread Iain Boal
So there was a purely political decision to build in the asymmetries. Can you corroborate, beyond the mere assertion? Who? When? Evidence welcome. IB On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:28 PM, morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Internet *is* it's lowest protocol layers. The ideology and politics are

Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How

2015-07-28 Thread Lori Emerson
Hi all, I'm glad to see the interview is being circulated, especially as I still worry it's too technical for most readers. And certainly, the design of TCP/IP was very political - Andrew Russell talks about the historical details in his book Open Standards. I've been working on an

Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How

2015-07-28 Thread Florian Cramer
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM, [1]morlockel...@yahoo.com wrote: The Internet *is* it's lowest protocol layers. No, it isn't, since it is neither immaterial nor a perpetuum mobile, but runs on hardware and electricity. -F ... # distributed via nettime: no commercial use

Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How

2015-07-28 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 28.07.2015 um 17:44 schrieb Florian Cramer fcra...@pleintekst.nl: The Internet *is* it's lowest protocol layers. No, it isn't, since it is neither immaterial nor a perpetuum mobile, but runs on hardware and electricity. Touché, but in fact it is the network protocols that

Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How

2015-07-28 Thread John Hopkins
On 28/Jul/15 02:56, Iain Boal wrote: So there was a purely political decision to build in the asymmetries. Can you corroborate, beyond the mere assertion? Who? When? Evidence welcome. IB Good question -- I don't think there is such a thing as 'purely political' decisions -- that would

Re: nettime Lori Emerson: What's Wrong With the Internet and How We

2015-07-27 Thread Florian Cramer
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:11 PM, t byfield tbyfi...@panix.com wrote: Via RISKS http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/28.81.html http://loriemerson.net/2015/07/23/whats-wrong-with-the-internet- and-how-we-can-fix-it-interview-with-internet-pioneer-john-day/ Â Â loriemerson