Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-18 Thread Pavel Simerda
* Tore Anderson > Now, my own mobile provider (or probably more correctly, the GGSN vendor > used by my mobile provider) does assume that mobile nodes adhere to the > spec. Because of this, it will unicast the RAs it emits to the > link-local address it expects the mobile node to have configured (

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-18 Thread Tore Anderson
* Pavel Simerda > I don't have an IPv6-enabled PPP connection right at hand but I think > I've seen a working setup without one. But I'm not going to set up > one right now, so there's no point in arguing over that. I guess the > simple fact that you technically don't need link-local addresses for

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-18 Thread Pavel Simerda
a dinner. - Original Message - > From: "Bjørn Mork" > To: "Pavel Simerda" > Cc: "Tore Anderson" , networkmanager-list@gnome.org, "Dan > Winship" > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:20:10 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-18 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Dan Winship" > To: "Pavel Simerda" , "Tore Anderson" > Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:39:41 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > On 12/17/201

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Tore Anderson" > To: "Pavel Simerda" > Cc: "Dan Winship" , networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:10:15 AM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > * Pavel Simerda

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Tore Anderson
* Pavel Simerda > There's no correct handling of RA lifetimes until the standards are > fixed, anyway. That is something I feel much more motivated for, so > if you want to discuss that with me, feel free. A wiki page might be > useful for that. The Linux kernel handles RA lifetimes correctly and

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Dan Williams
On Sun, 2013-12-15 at 06:37 +0100, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > my system has a built in ethernet interface wich is working perfectly > fine on IPV4 and IPV6. > > I added a second interface via usb for wiresharking some stuff (this way > I don't get my own traffic in the packet dumps). >

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Tore Anderson" > To: "Pavel Simerda" , "Bjørn Mork" > Cc: "Dan Winship" , networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:36:48 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 >

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Tore Anderson
* Pavel Simerda > But unfortunately we need to be a little bit careful about the theory > written down on paper and the actual needs. Linux has the long > history of allowing more than just blind following of what's written > down. And I'm not the only person who repeatedly proved that IPv6 > stan

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Robert M. Albrecht
Hi Pavel, But if link local still remains where is the difference between disabling IPV6 or enabling and choosing link local configuration only ? In released versions of NetworkManager, there isn't any possibility to disable IPv6 link-local addresses. In fact it's not properly supported even i

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Dan Winship
On 12/17/2013 06:01 AM, Pavel Simerda wrote: > 2) But setting disable_ipv6 doesn't really work as expected. See [1] and > especially the note about disable_ipv6 below the table. The truth is that > this also wouldn't affect the original poster's use case where the specific > interface is (hopefu

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
Pavel Simerda writes: >> This is a protocol >> requirement. Ref e.g. RFC 4291: >> >>2.8. A Node's Required Addresses >> >>A host is required to recognize the following addresses as >>identifying itself: >> >> o Its required Link-Local address for each interface.. >> [etc]

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
Pavel Simerda writes: >> > 1) First of all it doesn't *specifically* disable kenrel link-local >> > addresses allocation but performs some magic to disable a couple of >> > IPv6 features at once. This wouldn't be a problem in the original >> > poster's case as he wants to disable IPv6 anyway. >>

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Bjørn Mork" > To: "Pavel Simerda" > Cc: "Tore Anderson" , networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:00:55 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > Pavel Simerd

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Tore Anderson" > To: "Pavel Simerda" > Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:19:44 PM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > * Pavel Simerda > > > 1) First of

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
Pavel Simerda writes: >> > there isn't any possibility to disable IPv6 link-local addresses. In >> > fact it's not properly supported even in the kernel. >> >> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/$DEVICE/disable_ipv6 works for me? > > 1) First of all it doesn't *specifically* disable kenrel link-lo

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Tore Anderson
* Pavel Simerda > 1) First of all it doesn't *specifically* disable kenrel link-local > addresses allocation but performs some magic to disable a couple of > IPv6 features at once. This wouldn't be a problem in the original > poster's case as he wants to disable IPv6 anyway. As I understand it, l

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Tore Anderson" > To: "Pavel Simerda" > Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:57:28 AM > Subject: Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > * Pavel Simerda > > > ther

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Tore Anderson
* Pavel Simerda > there isn't any possibility to disable IPv6 link-local addresses. In > fact it's not properly supported even in the kernel. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/$DEVICE/disable_ipv6 works for me? Tore ___ networkmanager-list mailing list

Re: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-17 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Robert M. Albrecht" > To: networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:37:16 AM > Subject: Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1 > > Hi, > > my system has a built in ethernet interface wich is working

Disabling ip4 and IPV6 on F20RC1

2013-12-14 Thread Robert M. Albrecht
Hi, my system has a built in ethernet interface wich is working perfectly fine on IPV4 and IPV6. I added a second interface via usb for wiresharking some stuff (this way I don't get my own traffic in the packet dumps). I don't want or need an IP-stack on this second interface. In network manag