Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Morgan Read
Hello, Peter Roediger wrote: ... 2.) The configuration issue. In my view NetworkManager is one of the most intransparent linux applications out there. There's no Documentation (correct me if I'm wrong), there is no configuration file easily accessible and there are weird things going on with

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Russell Harrison wrote: must remember to hit reply to all :-) While we're accreting wish lists, let me add mine: 1) NM should to be able to manage keys and protocols (including WPA and WPA-2, given that WEP is pretty much useless no matter how many bits it has:-)

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 02:48 +0200, Peter Roediger wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I should write a little -personal- comment on what I think about the current implementation of NetworkManager and, more importantly, its design goals. First of all, I'm very pleased to see that there is some

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
p.roediger wrote: Aaron Konstam schrieb: On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 02:48 +0200, Peter Roediger wrote: Hi everyone, I thought I should write a little -personal- comment on what I think about the current implementation of NetworkManager and, more importantly, its design goals. First of all, I'm

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 09:51 -0400, Robert G. Brown wrote: On Thu, 11 May 2006, Russell Harrison wrote: must remember to hit reply to all :-) While we're accreting wish lists, let me add mine: 1) NM should to be able to manage keys and

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
It appears to me that there might be a small snowballs chance in hell ofits working if two conditions are met: 1. Must be running gnome or it appears all the tools aren't available2. Must NOT be using ndiswrapper.This assumes that the now 4 month old tome from redhat, written byRosanna Yuen has

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
On 5/11/06, Darren Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when is it going to be made compatible with kde, AND ndiswrapper so all of us using broadcom radios can share in the apparent glee here.My experience with NM has been uniformly negative, with every attempt to run it destroying all networking

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
On 5/11/06, Robert G. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Must admit I'm puzzled by these posts.. I've checked the %gconf.xml files for all the WEP networks I've connected to, and there's no key in any of them. Could you have left-overs from an old version? [EMAIL PROTECTED]|B:1045dirDUKE/ hpsetup/

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
My comments inline.On 5/10/06, Peter Roediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.) Wireless networks list.There is no Search for wireless networks or Refresh wireless networks list button/option in the applet. While this seems to be convenient in the first place it turns out to be not in some cases.

A little trouble starting the applet...

2006-05-11 Thread Omar Alva
Hello everyone: I'm wondering if could you give me a clue what's happening with my Network Manager (actually it's a great soft :D). My distro: -Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 My packages and versions: -gnome-common 2.12.0-1 -2.6.15-22-386 -wireless-tools

Another Network Manager Stupidity: Swapping eth0 and eth1

2006-05-11 Thread Charles Curley
I have just found what may be another Network Manager (NM) stupidity. I have two NICs on my laptop (http://www.charlescurley.com/Lenovo.R51.html) running Fedora Core 5. One is a wired Ethernet interface, the other a wireless Ethernet interface. In system-config-network, I have anchored eth0 and

Re: Another Network Manager Stupidity: Swapping eth0 and eth1

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
I don't think this is Network Manager, it does not touch that as far as I am aware of. I have seen this problem in Ubuntu and I think it was a bug in hotplug that caused it to swap. The bug was filed in Launchpad.net so maybe if you can find it there you will find more information and a possible

Re: A little trouble starting the applet...

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
With Ubuntu NM is customized to not manage any devices in /etc/interfaces. Try commenting out your wireless card there and see if it works.**Resending this to list, I forgot to hit reply to all, GMail hates mailing lists**On 5/11/06, Omar Alva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello everyone:I'm wondering

[patch] my latest wireless drivers workaround patch.

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Love
Here it is. A bunch of crap we sadly should never need but unfortunately do. Robert Love Index: src/nm-device-802-11-wireless.c === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/NetworkManager/src/nm-device-802-11-wireless.c,v retrieving revision

Re: Another Network Manager Stupidity: Swapping eth0 and eth1

2006-05-11 Thread Jon Escombe
Yeah, it's actually udev that's swapping the device names (happens to me too), depending on the order they get initialised. Guess the 'usual' network scripts may already have had some magic to deal with this... I've not tried it myself, but you can create new udev rules to lock the mac

Re: Ad-Hoc networks again

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Love
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 14:44 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: I know this has come up in the past but I can't remember if anything was ever decided on it, but I have been traveling a lot lately and while in airports I have mistakenly tried to connect to misconfigured laptops running in ad-hoc mode

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Jon Escombe
Robert Love wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 18:24 +0100, Jon Escombe wrote: That said, my private key password (for a WPA2 network) is stored in the xml file rather than the keyring ;), but doubtless it'll be stored somewhere better in due course.. I just fixed this in CVS, a few days ago.

Re: Ad-Hoc networks again

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
That would mean that I need to actually use my 10 year old Comp Sci degree which has been sitting unused since the day I completed it! lol I might take a look at this and see if I can puzzle out a patch for this, it would be a good way to get some rust off with what is hopefully a relatively

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
John Lagrue wrote: On 11/05/06, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why it is that negative comments I make about NetworkManager seem to always go into a black hole, never coming back from the list. It appears to me that there might be a small snowballs chance in hell of its

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 15:21, Gene Heskett wrote: Generally, I can click on reply rather than reply all, and get the mailing list, but on this list, a simple reply goes to the poster only. That really should be addressed so that it takes a reply all to included double bombing the

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
Darren Albers wrote: It appears to me that there might be a small snowballs chance in hell of its working if two conditions are met: 1. Must be running gnome or it appears all the tools aren't available 2. Must NOT be using ndiswrapper. This assumes that the now 4 month old tome from redhat,

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 15:30, Gene Heskett wrote: But I've not seen a KNetworkManager yet. http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/knetworkmanager/ You can even search this ml for information about it. regards Stefan Schmidt PS: Please strip down your answers to the necessary bits.

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Aaron Konstam wrote: Your post is extremely interesting but leaves me with a question and a statement. Question: I thought I was using 13 character WEP passwd but the file in the .gconf records only a 10 character passwd. Why is this? It sounds like it could be a legacy

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 15:21, Gene Heskett wrote: Generally, I can click on reply rather than reply all, and get the mailing list, but on this list, a simple reply goes to the poster only. That really should be addressed so that it takes a reply all to included

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
Darren Albers wrote: I am 99.9% certain that outside of the Network Manager Front-end (nm-applet) it is platform independent, for Gnome there is NM-Applet, for KDE there is KNetworkManager (I think it is available from kde.org SVN). The network-manager tarball comes with nm-applet but it

Re: [patch] more support for openvpn

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Robert Love wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 00:45 +0200, Groug wrote: This patch adds support for openvpn --tls-auth and --cipher options. Looks good, committed to STABLE and HEAD. I've actually had people request tls-auth support so this is a welcome addition. Btw, are there plans to

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Pat Suwalski
Gene Heskett wrote: Ok, so where do I set that in t-bird? Reply to all. --Pat ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
On 5/11/06, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I repeat, here, running kde, all it does is tear down the network and hang. You can stop it, kill it, do anything you want, but the only way to restore network function through ANY port, ethernet or wireless, is a full, powerdown reset. A

Re: [patch] special iconf or ad-hoc networks.

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
This is great! Thank you so much! On 5/11/06, Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grabbed my own gauntlet. Attached patch gives Ad-Hoc networks a special icon. I just used some gtk stock icon of a computer. We can -- we must -- do better. Also, a TODO item: putting both the encrypted

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Albers
On 5/11/06, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you have svn installed you can grab it with: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/knetworkmanager (wd now: /usr/src) [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/trunk/kdereview/knetworkmanager

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Gene Heskett
Darren Albers wrote: On 5/11/06, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did install the latest ndiswrapper thats available: [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# ndiswrapper -v utils version: 1.8 driver version:1.13 vermagic: 2.6.16-1.2111_FC5 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1 The previous

Re: A comment on NetworkManager

2006-05-11 Thread Russell Harrison
On 5/11/06, Casey Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Harrison wrote: simplicity of the interface.Right now its so simple I don't see how any layperson could understand it, there just isn't any feed back orI don't understand this at all. I have a few laptop users who are not very computer