Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Don't know if this is of any use to you, but I had troubles with the SigmaTe;l audio card that uses the same chip. I just sent this in to the list: Just got a new Dell D600 (company issued), installed Mandrake10 CE. Everything works OK now - did have issues with sound and network, the sound card is a SigmaTel one that is identified by Linux as an Intel 8280IDB AC'97 , other distros install the latest sound drivers for it (snd_intel8x0) works fine, Mandrake's same driver causes howling from the machine, specifying the i810_audio driver instead works fine. Dexter N Muir wrote: Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread. I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
On Monday 24 May 2004 01:27, Dexter N Muir wrote: snip To continue the saga: I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a few points in itself. Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo. The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0. The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e enabled. The red buttons are capture selected when bright. alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0. The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same chip? I'm having troubles with that too... No, they are just both Realtek chips. man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input, adding or removing it from the capture sources. Its behaviour belies this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs from capture sources. Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled in between. Strange... Just to be sure, 'capture' means 'recording' in ALSA speak ;-) With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out. Maybe a case of a missing analog audio cable, see http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html . And 'master' (and 'pcm' for digital audio sources) should also be unmuted and a have a reasonable volume level. #chkconfig --list sound sound0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #chkconfig --list alsa alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #runlevel N 5 OK, so alsa and sound are started in runlevel 5: graphical environment plus network. Any takers? :-) Hopefully... Dex What happens when you try 'aplay some_wave_file' ? HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10) - Thanks!
Hi all Got it! (as suggested by Frans Ketelaars): Maybe a case of a missing analog audio cable, see http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html . XP was running via the digital stream on the PCI bus - Mdk needs the analog. Just for interest, is there a means of selecting which of these to use (like a config analog=yes|no) in the audio options? Thanks to all who responded - I've now got a Mandrake system I can use! :-) Cheers all Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Dexter N Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all You have hijacked a thread, see: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette please :) I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? Has anyone any pointers here? Hopefully... Dex HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread. I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? Frans Ketelaars replied: See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Frans replied: Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? To continue the saga: I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a few points in itself. Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo. The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0. The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e enabled. The red buttons are capture selected when bright. alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0. The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same chip? I'm having troubles with that too... man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input, adding or removing it from the capture sources. Its behaviour belies this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs from capture sources. Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled in between. Strange... With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out. #chkconfig --list sound sound0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #chkconfig --list alsa alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #runlevel N 5 Any takers? :-) Hopefully... Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
On Sunday 23 May 2004 06:27 pm, Dexter N Muir wrote: Re-posting... sorry I hijacked a thread. I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? Frans Ketelaars replied: See 'man chkconfig'. In this case it lists the runlevels in which a service like sound or alsa is started. Posting the output of the diagnostic procedures is always a good idea. Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Frans replied: Use alsamixer if you use the default ALSA driver snd_intel8x0. Alsamixer has a man page. Be sure to unmute (toggle with the 'm' key) and raise the volumes of the relevant channels, at least 'pcm' and 'master'. Btw, what exactly is the problem? Do applications 'appear' to play? To continue the saga: I tried alsamixer, but with no more success in terms of sound output, and though it explained the red and green buttons in Kmix it raised a few points in itself. Kmix (bottom right corner) shows I am controlling Intel 82801DB-ICH4. I presume this is correct for the AC'97 as embedded on the mobo. The MCC (under Hardware/Hardware) says the Soundcard is ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller, and Module is snd-intel8x0. The green buttons are muted when dim, and un-muted when bright, i.e enabled. The red buttons are capture selected when bright. alsamixer says Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4, and Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0. The onboard LAN is a Realtek RTL8139 - is this part of the same chip? I'm having troubles with that too... man alsamixer says Spacebar toggles Capture mode on a valid input, adding or removing it from the capture sources. Its behaviour belies this: it selects that channel for capture, removing all other inputs from capture sources. Having found this, I noted that Kmix seems to allow multiple sources fro capture, though the red buttons will not clear immediately after being selected: another source has to be toggled in between. Strange... With a CD in the drive, and the CD player indicating that it is there and playing a track, and with the mixer (either alsamixer or Kmix) showing CD selected and volume high (80%+), there is still no sound out. #chkconfig --list sound sound0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #chkconfig --list alsa alsa 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off #runlevel N 5 Any takers? :-) Hopefully... Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 I have found that if the Mic volume is enabled then the cd does not play sound so make sure that the Mic volume is turned off. HTH -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help with on-board AC97 Audio (mdk10)
Hi all I have an hp pavilion 713a machine, with Microstar MS-6577 Motherboard. This has an Avance AC97 audio chip on board, which works fine under the pre-loaded XP. I'm trying to migrate it to Mandrake (10.0 Community), and running into the odd obstacle or two... Firstly, the drivers themselves. Configure your computer says the hardware itself is working fine (there are no error messages). I've tried using the alternate drivers as listed here, but with no better success than the default (snd_intel 8x0). The diagnostic procedures tell me to run a series of commands, and I've done these, but the results are cryptic: chkconfig --list sound reports a series of 0: .. 6:, with off or on. chkconfig --list alsa does the same. What do these mean? Nextly, the mixer. I'm using KDE desktop, so up comes Kmix. The help files for this tell me nothing about what the red and green buttons (above and below the sliders) are for - can ANYONE tell me? Also, I can see a Mix Mono output, but after having fiddled the drivers the stereo one has disappeared - is this a symptom of the lack of sound out? Yes, I can right-click the slider and split the control, but the right one snaps to the left setting, so that doesn't turn it into stereo, it's really a mono one. Has anyone any pointers here? Hopefully... Dex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
