Re: [nfc-l] reflections on a monumental nocturnal migration

2010-09-20 Thread Bryan Guarente
NFCers,
I have saved off a bunch of the radar data and a bunch of streamline data from 
the Sept 10-11 event for my personal use and would be willing to share them 
with 
anyone who wants to see them.  They are currently hidden to the world, but I 
could make them available if anyone wants to look through them.  It was an 
interesting event where a frontogenesis area was aligned very oddly for the 
Northeast (NW to SE) and that was causing the winds to be out of the NE as 
multiple people have noted.  I didn't track the frontogenesis zone back to its 
origins to learn maybe how this could happen in the future, but might be able 
to 
do that with some of the data I saved off.  That will be at a later date though.

Now to Ted's questions:
I have fond memories of Sept 21-22 1985, but from outside Philadelphia, PA... 
wait I was three... (sorry I just had to do that, I will accept all retorts)

My memories are better served up from this website:
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/upairwx-r.html

This is an archive of upper-air meteorological data that goes back to 1957 
(just 
in case your memory goes back further than mine).  This page is a subset of the 
Make-your-own maps archive from Plymouth State University found here:

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/u-make.html

So I went back to look at Ted's memories.  I am a fan of streamlines for seeing 
what is happening in the atmosphere.  I checked multiple levels of the 
atmosphere to come to some of my conclusions: 1000mb (nearing sea-level), 925mb 
(.5-.75km up), and 850mb (1-1.5km up).  Let me show you a few of the maps then 
you can make your own to play along.

I started with Sept 21, 1985 at 12 zulu or UTC 925mb.  It looks like this:
http://tinyurl.com/243kak3
OR zoomed in on the Northeast here:
http://tinyurl.com/256lavj

In these maps, I see an area of weak frontal passage or at the least 
frontgenesis (front "birthing" area) just south of Pittsburgh running ese to 
wnw.  The winds behind the frontal zone are directly from the north or slightly 
west of north.  12Z is just before sun-up that time of year, so about the time 
I 
would expect Ted was out huckin' papers.  With the frontal passage overnight, I 
would expect the bird numbers to be piled up behind the front in the preferable 
wind field.  I would suspect that the morning was cloudy with maybe a light 
drizzle based on the frontogenesis.  Based on the sounding from that morning, 
there was possibly some fog or very low clouds that morning (Sounding).  I 
would 
expect that this made the conditions even better, pushing some of the birds 
lower.  It seems like a perfect day to me for a nice night flight... but wait...

Ted's dates were Sept 21-22, 1985, so we have been looking at the morning 
before 
the flight occurred not the night of it.

Contiguous US
http://tinyurl.com/2a6v9aq
Northeast
http://tinyurl.com/25oo3s8

These winds are not preferable for what one might want to see for an NFC kind 
of 
night.  Winds from the south or SSW.  I am hoping that the answer to this is 
that Ted has the wrong dates recorded, but that is for him to decide.  If you 
want to check the overnight hours, just change the date back one and change the 
time to 00Z, that should give you the evening sounding information.  


For the meteorologically savvy, we know it is not always possible to create 
these kinds of analyses from the sounding network we have in the US, so there 
is 
definitely some concern about either of the days of data, but it is no 
different 
than the data we get these days, so believe what you will, with the 
understanding that the dataset is not necessarily representative (but there is 
no current way to gauge that).  


So Ted, I have given you the tools to relive your meteorological past 
(excluding 
archived radar, which is much more involved and would only be reflectivity not 
velocity based on the date).  Tell me if you think you could have recorded the 
wrong date, or if you think you have the right dates, because that makes for an 
even more compelling story if it is the right dates.  



Good luck with reliving your past.  
Bryan Guarente
Instructional Designer/Meteorologist
The COMET Program
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, CO



  
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Re:[nfc-l] reflections on a monumental nocturnal migration

2010-09-20 Thread Ted Floyd
Hi, all.

I've been enjoying the discussion of the "monumental nocturnal
migration" of Sept. 10-11, 2010.

Which reminds me of something. It's a bit obscure, but I think some of
you may appreciate it--and may be able to help with something. We're
coming up on the 25th anniversary of the greatest nocturnal migration
event I've ever witnessed: huge numbers of warblers (and sparrows?) and
good (but not huge) numbers of "thrushes" (Rose-breasted Grosbeaks?--see
below), the night of Sept. 21-22, 1985, over Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I
was in high school at the time, and I had a paper route that required me
to be out well before sunrise.

Anyhow, I was blown away by the numbers of "warblers and sparrows" and
fairly impressed by the number of "thrushes" I heard--and wrote about in
my field notes--before dawn that morning. After sunrise, I noted large
numbers of grounded Rose-breasted Grosbeaks (were those the
"thrushes"?--then again, maybe I just missed skulking thrushes), plus
warblers (but I see no mention in my notes of grounded migrant
sparrows). 

My question is: Does anybody have insight, 25 years later, as to what
precipitated this event? At the time, I wouldn't have thought to consult
radar, NFC-L, or the flight calls CD-ROM...  ;)

...

Changing the subject, thanks for the offline inquiries about viewing
Uranus while listening to nocturnal migrants. And apologies to those of
you who had some technical difficulties with my earlier sky chart. Well,
try this, it (now) works:

http://tinyurl.com/38svymy

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