Re: [nfc-l] Catharus thrushes in weird places
Hello Olivier, I accept that to more experienced NA ears the Swiss call does not sit comfortably with Swainson’s Thrush. Bill Evans told me it ends at a frequency that would make it atypical for the species, and some clear modulation would also be desirable. However, the Chaffinch call you are referring to is not a flight call but a breeding season call used in a songlike manner. I’ve never heard it after the summer. The two flight calls of Chaffinch are a low, soft, rapidly descending ‘puw’ and a loud, bright ‘pink’, especially when flying alone. I also hear finches at night now and then, but of the genus Fringilla i’ve heard Brambling a few times and almost never Chaffinch despite Brambling being much less common. Other night finches here include European Goldfinch and, this year in particular, Hawfinch. Best, Magnus > On 10 Nov 2017, at 02:22, Olivier Barden wrote: > > Magnus, > > The Swiss recording does not sound like a Swainson's Thrush to me, other than > superficially. The spectrographic signature of this call doesn't look right, > either. Could this simply be a Chaffinch? Its quite low-pitched, and there > seems to be a bit of echo. I rarely hear finches at night in North > America--they are for the most part diurnal migrants, like Chaffinch--but it > happens. Compare with this recording: http://www.xeno-canto.org/381677 > > Regards, > > Olivier Barden > Quebec, Canada > >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Magnus Robb wrote: >> I like the idea of a detector for Catharus thrushes on Scilly! But there are >> two places perhaps better qualified than that. This year saw three records >> in Cork, southwest Ireland and just one on Scilly. But the ‘European’ >> capital for North American vagrants is now Corvo in the Azores (actually >> it’s on the North American side of the mid-Atlantic ridge!). Have a look at >> this list of what was found there this autumn. >> >> http://birdingcorvo2013.blogspot.pt >> >> Talking of Catharus thrushes in unexpected places, I’d be interested to know >> what North Americans make of this. I was surfing around on Xeno-canto the >> other day and I came across this mystery NFC recorded by Thomas Lüthi (CC) >> in his garden in Switzerland in September 2015. To me it sounds like a >> Swainson’s Thrush, and I can’t think of anything European that comes this >> close. How does it sound to people with real experience of this species? I >> only know the NFC of Swainson’s from recordings. >> >> http://www.xeno-canto.org/386520 >> >> all the best, >> >> Magnus Robb >> >> >> > On 09 Nov 2017, at 00:08:26, Ted Floyd wrote: >> > >> > Sure looks (and sounds) like it to me. I think you can even rule out >> > Bicknell's, haha. >> > >> > As you say, it is exciting. This brings up something I've been meaning to >> > propose: Given how many Gray-cheeked and Swainson's thrushes are actually >> > seen in Britain, it occurs to me that it might be cool to put up a >> > detector on the Isles of Scilly pointing out toward the ocean. Especially >> > near a light, if there is one. We all know the truism that you can hear >> > more Gray-cheeks in an hour than you might see in a lifetime. If that >> > applies to thrushes excitedly approaching the British Isles, imagine how >> > many thrushes you might detect that way. >> > >> > Best, --Ted >> > >> > Ted Floyd >> > Lafayette, Boulder County, Colorado >> > >> > === >> > >> > Ted Floyd >> > Editor, Birding magazine >> > Managing Editor, North American Birds >> > >> > Website: http://aba.org/birding >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine >> > The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org/ >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Debbie Leick wrote: >> > Hey folks, >> > Could this be anything other than a Gray-cheeked Thrush? We get many >> > Swainson's Thrush but this is so different. Recorded in Victor, MT, >> > 9/14/17, ~5:45am. It would be a first for us since we began monitoring in >> > 2012. Also, I could not find any records of GCTH west of the Montana >> > continental divide in either eBird or the MT Natural Heritage Program >> > database. So if it is, a very exciting record for us! >> > Thanks in advance for any guidance! >> > Debbie >> > >> > -- >> > NFC-L List Info: >> > Welcome and Basics >> > Rules and Information >> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> > Archives: >> > The Mail Archive >> > Surfbirds >> > Birding.ABA.Org >> > Please submit your observations to eBird! >> > -- >> > >> > -- >> > NFC-L List Info: >> > Welcome and Basics >> > Rules and Information >> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> > Archives: >> > The Mail Archive >> > Surfbirds >> > Birding.ABA.Org >> > Please submit your observations to eBird! >> > -- >> >> >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> >> Welcome and Basics – http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME >> Rules and Information – http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave – >> http://www
Re: [nfc-l] Catharus thrushes in weird places
Magnus, The Swiss recording does not sound like a Swainson's Thrush to me, other than superficially. The spectrographic signature of this call doesn't look right, either. Could this simply be a Chaffinch? Its quite low-pitched, and there seems to be a bit of echo. I rarely hear finches at night in North America--they are for the most part diurnal migrants, like Chaffinch--but it happens. Compare with this recording: http://www.xeno-canto.org/381677 Regards, Olivier Barden Quebec, Canada On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Magnus Robb wrote: > I like the idea of a detector for Catharus thrushes on Scilly! But there > are two places perhaps better qualified than that. This year saw three > records in Cork, southwest Ireland and just one on Scilly. But the > ‘European’ capital for North American vagrants is now Corvo in the Azores > (actually it’s on the North American side of the mid-Atlantic ridge!). Have > a look at this list of what was found there this autumn. > > http://birdingcorvo2013.blogspot.pt > > Talking of Catharus thrushes in unexpected places, I’d be interested to > know what North Americans make of this. I was surfing around on Xeno-canto > the other day and I came across this mystery NFC recorded by Thomas Lüthi > (CC) in his garden in Switzerland in September 2015. To me it sounds like a > Swainson’s Thrush, and I can’t think of anything European that comes this > close. How does it sound to people with real experience of this species? I > only know the NFC of Swainson’s from recordings. > > http://www.xeno-canto.org/386520 > > all the best, > > Magnus Robb > > > > On 09 Nov 2017, at 00:08:26, Ted Floyd wrote: > > > > Sure looks (and sounds) like it to me. I think you can even rule out > Bicknell's, haha. > > > > As you say, it is exciting. This brings up something I've been meaning > to propose: Given how many Gray-cheeked and Swainson's thrushes are > actually seen in Britain, it occurs to me that it might be cool to put up a > detector on the Isles of Scilly pointing out toward the ocean. Especially > near a light, if there is one. We all know the truism that you can hear > more Gray-cheeks in an hour than you might see in a lifetime. If that > applies to thrushes excitedly approaching the British Isles, imagine how > many thrushes you might detect that way. > > > > Best, --Ted > > > > Ted Floyd > > Lafayette, Boulder County, Colorado > > > > === > > > > Ted Floyd > > Editor, Birding magazine > > Managing Editor, North American Birds > > > > Website: http://aba.org/birding > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine > > The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org/ > > > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Debbie Leick > wrote: > > Hey folks, > > Could this be anything other than a Gray-cheeked Thrush? We get many > Swainson's Thrush but this is so different. Recorded in Victor, MT, > 9/14/17, ~5:45am. It would be a first for us since we began monitoring in > 2012. Also, I could not find any records of GCTH west of the Montana > continental divide in either eBird or the MT Natural Heritage Program > database. So if it is, a very exciting record for us! > > Thanks in advance for any guidance! > > Debbie > > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > > Welcome and Basics > > Rules and Information > > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > Archives: > > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > > Birding.ABA.Org > > Please submit your observations to eBird! > > -- > > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > > Welcome and Basics > > Rules and Information > > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > Archives: > > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > > Birding.ABA.Org > > Please submit your observations to eBird! > > -- > > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > > Welcome and Basics – http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > Rules and Information – http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave – http://www.northeastbirding. > com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > Archives: > The Mail Archive – http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist. > html > Surfbirds – http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > Birding.ABA.Org – http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC > > Please submit your observations to eBird! � http://ebird.org/content/ > ebird/ > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nfc-l] Catharus thrushes in weird places
I like the idea of a detector for Catharus thrushes on Scilly! But there are two places perhaps better qualified than that. This year saw three records in Cork, southwest Ireland and just one on Scilly. But the ‘European’ capital for North American vagrants is now Corvo in the Azores (actually it’s on the North American side of the mid-Atlantic ridge!). Have a look at this list of what was found there this autumn. http://birdingcorvo2013.blogspot.pt Talking of Catharus thrushes in unexpected places, I’d be interested to know what North Americans make of this. I was surfing around on Xeno-canto the other day and I came across this mystery NFC recorded by Thomas Lüthi (CC) in his garden in Switzerland in September 2015. To me it sounds like a Swainson’s Thrush, and I can’t think of anything European that comes this close. How does it sound to people with real experience of this species? I only know the NFC of Swainson’s from recordings. http://www.xeno-canto.org/386520 all the best, Magnus Robb > On 09 Nov 2017, at 00:08:26, Ted Floyd wrote: > > Sure looks (and sounds) like it to me. I think you can even rule out > Bicknell's, haha. > > As you say, it is exciting. This brings up something I've been meaning to > propose: Given how many Gray-cheeked and Swainson's thrushes are actually > seen in Britain, it occurs to me that it might be cool to put up a detector > on the Isles of Scilly pointing out toward the ocean. Especially near a > light, if there is one. We all know the truism that you can hear more > Gray-cheeks in an hour than you might see in a lifetime. If that applies to > thrushes excitedly approaching the British Isles, imagine how many thrushes > you might detect that way. > > Best, --Ted > > Ted Floyd > Lafayette, Boulder County, Colorado > > === > > Ted Floyd > Editor, Birding magazine > Managing Editor, North American Birds > > Website: http://aba.org/birding > Twitter: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine > The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org/ > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Debbie Leick wrote: > Hey folks, > Could this be anything other than a Gray-cheeked Thrush? We get many > Swainson's Thrush but this is so different. Recorded in Victor, MT, 9/14/17, > ~5:45am. It would be a first for us since we began monitoring in 2012. Also, > I could not find any records of GCTH west of the Montana continental divide > in either eBird or the MT Natural Heritage Program database. So if it is, a > very exciting record for us! > Thanks in advance for any guidance! > Debbie > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > Birding.ABA.Org > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > Birding.ABA.Org > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME Rules and Information � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave � http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archive � http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds � http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Birding.ABA.Org � http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC Please submit your observations to eBird! ��http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
